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re: When does property insurance in SELA become untenable?

Posted on 6/22/22 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 7:00 pm to
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taxpayers will be footing much larger portions of the rebuild as homeowners stop carrying insurance


Why are the taxpayers on the hook? The government is not responsible for repairing private property. That’s how we got in this mess to begin with.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20812 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:06 pm to
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Why are the taxpayers on the hook? The government is not responsible for repairing private property. That’s how we got in this mess to begin with.

Don’t think you will have anyone in this board arguing. People without insurance made a conscious effort to not have insurance. If you can’t afford to insure your property, you can’t afford your property.

With that said, you also know the politicians can’t afford to take that hard stance and let people suffer for their own decisions. As a result, FEMA gets to step in every time there’s an event that causes massive damage; which then has people start thinking why pay expensive insurance bills if the feds will just come in and take care of me
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:37 pm to
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FEMA gets to step in every time there’s an event that causes massive damage


There was a time when FEMA just provided aid short term. It has grown way too large and has taken on too much responsibility.

When they started shipping in travel trailers and paying people to move I knew it was out of control. What’s our national debt up to? How’s that inflation treating us?

Maybe the general population will eventually start questioning wasteful government spending. Raising flood insurance rates is a positive start.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 8:40 pm
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82059 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:24 pm to
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Why are the taxpayers on the hook? The government is not responsible for repairing private property. That’s how we got in this mess to begin with.

Unless they disband FEMA, then taxpayers will always be paying for those who didn't prepare
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89316 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 12:06 am to
Plenty are shady an don’t want to honor claims.
Posted by nolaTiger24
Member since Sep 2008
1642 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:16 am to
I was paying $4400 with Southern Fidelity, my agent is telling me that the cheapest he is seeing is $8000.

I have had zero claims in 10 years since building the house.
Posted by bubba102105
Member since Aug 2017
524 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:46 am to
I went from 2200 to 3700 with USAA. When I told my agent USAA's price she didn't even bother to price anything else and told me to go with that. Said everything else she's been seeing is higher for less coverage.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25204 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 7:28 am to
A lot of people who are getting dropped right now are going to need to bite the bullet for now, then try to reshop it after hurricane season when hopefully there’s more options
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14683 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 7:41 am to
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It’s not greed. These companies are going insolvent. Bankrupt. The opposite. They didn’t take in enough premium to cover their claims. Now they have to charge a rate adequate to the level of risk and people are realizing that it’s expensive as hell in south Louisiana.


I’m in the insurance industry, and while I don’t do property or anything similar, I read blogs and articles regarding the state of the market.

For multiple reasons, the past few years have been absolutely disastrous for insurers, and property is probably getting hit the hardest. I know there are major issues in Florida as well, with some local/regional carriers going insolvent.
Posted by Fox McCloud
Member since Oct 2020
3525 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 8:06 am to
Is the northshore seeing homeowners insurance increases as much as nola? I feel like there’s quite a bit of difference there with risk
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20675 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 8:22 am to
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I know there are major issues in Florida as well, with some local/regional carriers going insolvent.

It’s not just a matter of local or regional carriers going insolvent.

The big players who will even quote are really just farming the coastal homeowners policies out to preferred local or regional plans because they won’t write policies in those zip codes themselves.

If all the local plans leave it will basically be the state plans as the only option for homeowners.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
176234 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:07 am to
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I feel like there’s quite a bit of difference there with risk


meaning what precisely?

yes northshore is not in great shape, maybe not as severe as south shore though.
Posted by biggie
Member since May 2013
90 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 3:15 pm to
At what point can insurers decide to not cover wind damage to roofs or perhaps require an additional policy for wind/hail coverage? I think we can all agree that a large portion of claims are for total roof replacements. The Garcia roofing companies of the state are profiting $200/square on the backs of insurance companies to replace a roof every 10 to 15 years. If you could perhaps isolate that risk, more companies would likely take risk.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40261 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 3:44 pm to
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At what point can insurers decide to not cover wind damage to roofs or perhaps require an additional policy for wind/hail coverage?


This is already occurring.

I know several people that have a homeowners policy that excludes wind damage, and a separate "wind-only" policy with Citizens.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25204 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 4:35 pm to
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At what point can insurers decide to not cover wind damage to roofs
You can't just exclude coverage on one part of a structure, but not the rest.

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or perhaps require an additional policy for wind/hail coverage?
Some companies have been doing that since 2006. The homeowner policy excludes all wind/hail damage and you have to buy a separate wind/hail only policy through LA Citizens.

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I think we can all agree that a large portion of claims are for total roof replacements. The Garcia roofing companies of the state are profiting $200/square on the backs of insurance companies to replace a roof every 10 to 15 years. If you could perhaps isolate that risk, more companies would likely take risk.
I think at some point, you may see more carriers opting to only cover wind/hail damage to roofs at actual cash value. That would be a significant exposure reduction for the insurer and it de-incentivizes people with older roofs from putting off replacing the roof because they're waiting to see if a storm will come through and rip a few shingles off so their insurance company ends up paying for a roof instead of the homeowner coming 100% out of pocket.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20695 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:19 pm to
Might be even more of a cluster on the northshore. Most areas marked
Decline: Coastal Catastrophe Property
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:35 pm to
I went from $7900 last year, renewal this spring at $9400, policy canceled, $13,900 at the new company. LA Citizens was $11k for no wind/hail coverage. X Flood zone and flood coverage is still <$1k.

No claims since Katrina. That claim was fairly minimal.

Needless to say, the for sale sign is going up soon.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20695 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:58 pm to
Terrible man. Simply terrible
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21082 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 7:01 pm to
flood yes ... wind/hail/homeowners/commercial wind/hail/storm no
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21082 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 7:07 pm to
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Decline: Coastal Catastrophe Property


what's this ... can you share a link or resource from insurance rating or something? I am unfamiliar with this
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