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re: What were your most surprising things about retirement?

Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:21 am to
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 8:21 am to
When I retired a golfing friend who had been retired for about 3 years said,

It 's a feeling that reminds you of in high school. Every night is like a Friday night and ever day is like a Saturday.

He was right.
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 8:22 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40121 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 10:06 am to
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The biggest concern I see for folks who retire young is providing for health insurance/care.

I can continue mine through my employer after retirement, but most folks don't have that advantage. It is hella $$$ on the private market.


If you plan ahead you can use ACA for relatively cheap plans.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
891 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:05 pm to
I have no kids, never been married, and don't intend to leave anything to anyone when I depart this world, so I don't think my situation would apply to yours, but basically, I lost my job at almost 56, and when I really did the math, figured out that I could use my assets and recreate the income that I was spending to live. I was making a lot more than that, but I was saving and investing a lot of it plus spending a lot of money just because I was working.

In short, using the limited access without penalty I had to my IRA's before age 59.5, I was able to live the lifestyle I value without compromise, except that I did drive a clunker until just this last month (turned 59.5 at the end of January).

Now, I am not a world traveler. If I take a vacation, it is to meet up with friends, grill out, and drink beer. I don't need to do much else for fun. I don't want a boat, don't need a hobby, etc. Others that have to have something to do all the time, or want to travel all the time, won't be happy living like I live, but I enjoy a laid back and comfortable life, and it costs less than I thought it would. The major obstacle was navigating the 3.5 years between when I quit working and turned 59.5 and now that is all in the rear view mirror. However, it is still important to stay fully aware of the tax consequences of my spending, that is one of the keys to making assets go further.

One thing I would suggest to you is to draft a plan on what you would do if you had to retire early. What would you do?
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2893 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:11 pm to
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Actuarially, they say the average male croaks at age 76. So in theory maybe I have 5-10 years left? 

It's not actually quite that bleak. For US males that make it to 65 life expectancy is more like 82-83.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2893 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:19 pm to
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considering just calling it a day. I still have two kids at home as a senior in high school and one starting her freshman year in September.

Once they're out of college and starting their own careers you'll see less of them. I'd strongly consider freeing up your time now.
What SWR method are you using to get you out to 105? If it already accounts for inflation, taxes etc and /or doesnt count SS income you're likely too cautious. Dont be a victim of one more year syndrome.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3093 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:23 pm to
How much I suck at golf and how hard it is to get better as you get older.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40121 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:24 pm to
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For US males that make it to 65 life expectancy is more like 82-83


Which I bet goes up even more for high NW males
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2893 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:37 pm to
Good point. Probably even better if you retire and focus on health/fitness before precipitous decline.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26828 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:44 am to
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You need to set your base higher. Today, at a 4% return, 5M will bring in around 200K. The dollar buys 50% less every 20 years. In 30 years, your 5M will only generate 25K of buying power.


This is a ridiculously bad take. Terrible bad.


A lot of investment gurus create the illusion that you need millions to live in retirement.

The truth of the matter is that today, a retired couple only needs 6 or 7 grand a month to live comfortably - provided that they own their own house. A decent SS payment will give you most of that, so you are probably looking at 10-20 grand a year to make up the difference. For those who believe SS is going away, I would say that if SS goes away, our country is in a really bad place, and the $5M probably won't do you much good, either.

If you plan on jetsetting and buying a new mercedes/boat every year or two, then save the $5M. But you don't need it.

I would recommend that you own your own home outright by the time you retire. That gives you and financial asset as well as keeps your monthly expenses down, with no interest payments. I also would consider downsizing my house, if you live in a large house. Move into a house that you can take can maintain and is also all on one level.

Having 10 acres and a 4000 sf house when you're 80 is not ideal. We have a family friend who owned the same house for 50 years and by the end of his life, the house was in terrible shape, due to neglect, and he had his bed in the living room because all the BRs were upstairs and he couldn't use them.

Account for your health care costs, especially worst case scenario.

Account for cost of living increases.

Know your lifestyle. If you like to eat out at nice restaurants every night, then you'll need to account for that. Most retirees eat out less, drive less, and overall spend less (again, especially if you own your own home by the time you retire).

Account for activities you might want to do after retirement that you don't do now (extra expenses). For example, if you plan to get season tickets, or restore old cars. Whatever.

That's all I got.

Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 7:46 am to
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In 30 years, your 5M will only generate 25K of buying power.
got to be one of the dumber things ive read on this site and thats saying something
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:12 am to
Yep.

We won't have many millions when we retire but with SS ($6k a month) and drawing from investments we can maintain our current lifestyle if we want with a couple of overseas trips a year. While doing that we should still have money to dump into investments every month and still have a portfolio that grows in most years.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 10:23 am
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
21815 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:40 am to
I make double what I made when working and have very little expense. we travel alot. Have RV will travel. Make sure everything is paid off before you retier.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18495 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 8:58 am to
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got to be one of the dumber things ive read on this site and thats saying something


There was some hyperbole in the math but it was to make a point. Today, you can live a comfortable life with 5M in assets. But can you live comfortably on 5M in 30 years, as the poster indicated, his goal?

quote:

Americans need to earn 70% more than 6 years ago to comfortably afford a median price home

LINK

In 1970, the median price of a house was 25,000, in 2023 it was 400,000, in 2076 it will be 6,390,000. Yes, 6.39 million.
Grok calculates the median price of a house in 2053: Final Answer
The house would cost approximately $2,019,500 in 2053, rounded to the nearest hundred for simplicity.

Check out this short video of projections based on 50 years, not 30.
LINK

Also, the US is over 36 trillion in debt. We have no hope of paying that amount off without inflating the dollar by a large amount. Here's another good watch: How the US will inflate its debt away
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19012 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:07 am to
According to many videos on YouTube, the two biggest regrets are:

(1) Waited too long to retire.

(2) Didn’t spend enough money in retirement, especially in the earlier and healthier years.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40121 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:34 am to
quote:

There was some hyperbole in the math but it was to make a point. Today, you can live a comfortable life with 5M in assets. But can you live comfortably on 5M in 30 years, as the poster indicated, his goal?


Again, that's not how any of this works.
Posted by Hitman67
Lumberton, TX
Member since Jul 2024
266 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:59 am to
Lol, so you assume the 5mill will not be invested in any way? You just throw the 5mill in the bank and start spending it
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
1424 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:45 am to
The $5M won’t be worth $5M either if invested and return outpaces inflation rate for positive gain / real value.

You are not telling the whole story, a big omission.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26828 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:03 pm to
Housing should be a non-factor if your house is paid off. That is probably the biggest thing - go into retirement with your house and cars paid off.

You can sell your house and buy another one. It makes sense to find your "forever home" before you retire.

Cost of living goes up, but you also get COLA raises in social security. You don't need millions to make up the delta between SS and your lifestyle income. As someone said, with a $6K SS check and a couple grand a month from a retirement fund, you can live comfortably and take a few trips to abroad each year.

Again, if you want a lavish lifestyle, then account for it.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:43 pm to
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Today, you can live a comfortable life with 5M in assets. But can you live comfortably on 5M in 30 years, as the poster indicated, his goal?

1965 5 million? Comfortable
1995 5 million? Comfortable
2025 5 million? Still comfortable
2055 5 million? Yes, still comfortable

Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52149 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:48 pm to
Are you retarded, by chance? No offense intended.
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