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What to do with 1 year increased pay?

Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:02 am
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7443 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:02 am
I'm making a lot more money this year, but only for this year. My salary will revert back in 2025. I'm considering putting an extra $13k to max out my 401k but don't really want to as it's the safe and boring choice. I'd rather put it towards savings to buy a better home or maybe consider the idea of purchasing my first rental property. I also probably need to buy a new vehicle in the next year or 2. Let me know what yall think is best.

Currently single and 31 years old
Retirement accounts (401k, HSA, Roth IRA): $186k
Taxable Brokerage: $78k
Cash (including emergency fund): $57k
Debt: I owe $335k at 3.25% on a mortgage, probably have about $45k in equity. I'm paying PMI on this at $158 per month but don't intend to stay in this house long term.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40425 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:10 am to
I’d dump it in a HYSA
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:36 am to
Doing something with it to improve your monthly budget situation after your salary goes back down makes a lot of sense. It is an opportunity to free up discretionary spending at a lower income. That usually leads to less stress and more enjoyment.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17750 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 11:04 am to
Buy NVDA
Posted by Mom2KandK
Member since Jun 2010
146 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 4:28 pm to
Max out your 401k first. Your future self will thank you.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10542 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Taxable Brokerage: $78k Cash (including emergency fund): $57k


Well good for you.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4462 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 4:39 pm to
Enjoy it now on hookers and blow. After you get married and have kids it will all disappear anyway.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
11541 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 5:00 pm to
401K then Brokerage would be my move.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84642 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 5:06 pm to
How much is the pay increase and what will it go back to in 2025?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24132 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

How much is the pay increase and what will it go back to in 2025?


Ding ding ding.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7443 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 11:35 pm to
$115k increased to around $150k and then back down to $115ish next year.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80101 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 5:59 am to
You seem to be in a pretty decent spot for 31, why not do something for yourself with it?

Put half into maxing your 401k and spend the other half on a trip you've always wanted to do.

Or theres always cocaine and hookers... but don't forget about Iraqi Dinars
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
1812 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 6:50 am to
Max out 401k
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:36 am to
That PMI is really high. What do you need to get the mortgage balance down to in order to eliminate it? For example, let’s say at a $305k balance, PMI drops off. That’s $30k.

You are paying $1,896 a year in PMI. If you threw $30k at the mortgage, that’s pretty much an immediate 6.3% return on your money for eliminating PMI + a 3.25% return for paying down your mortgage.

There are some nuances to the numbers above, but given your excessively large emergency fund and increased salary, paying down that mortgage to eliminate PMI is a no brainer to me if you plan to be in the house at least another year.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6448 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:43 am to
quote:

$115k increased to around $150k and then back down to $115ish next year.


I'd start the job search December 1st with availability to start January 2nd.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2115 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:47 am to
Fund a Roth IRA and max HSA before more taxable investments. HSA I'd triple tax advantaged pay out of pocket if you can and keep reciepts for future tax free withdrawals.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7443 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 9:58 am to
quote:

paying down that mortgage to eliminate PMI is a no brainer to me if you plan to be in the house at least another year.

This is definitely a thought I've had, but I'm not quite sure how it works (first home) so im glad you mentioned it. Let me know if anything I'm saying is off-base.
My understanding is that I would need to get it re-appraised and my loan will need to be less than 20% of the total value of the home. So if the home appraises for $380k then I need to owe less than $304k which would mean paying $31k down on the principal. Re-appraising is not a refinance so it won't affect my mortgage rate, but it will cost ~$500.

My struggle is that it feels like I'm tying up $31.5k in exchange for $1900 per year. Yea I guess that's a 6% return, but my 401k has been outperforming that plus you have to think about the tax savings from the 401k (and I believe you get a tax deduction for PMI?). I'm not sure how much to value the 3.25% return from paying down the mortgage if I only expect to be in the house for another 2 years or so. Is it really best to tie up all that money? That could be used for a down payment on a rental property if I chose to get off my arse and jump into that world, though I don't know what I'm doing so that may be a ways off.
This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 10:00 am
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:20 am to
A few of things…

I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that you had a conventional loan. If you don’t have a conventional loan, then you are stuck with PMI unless you refinance. If you have a conventional loan, you can get rid of PMI through two ways:

1. As you stated, pay for an appraisal and loan needs to be 80% of value of home. This may be worth if if you feel the property has appreciated significantly since you bought it.

2. Paying down your mortgage to 78% of the original sales price. PMI automatically goes away when you reach this milestone. No appraisal needed.

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My struggle is that it feels like I'm tying up $31.5k in exchange for $1900 per year. Yea I guess that's a 6% return, but my 401k has been outperforming that

Keep in mind the added benefit of paying down your 3.25% mortgage which gives you a total ~ 9.25% return. That’s how I view it.
quote:

and I believe you get a tax deduction for PMI?

It’s deductible if you itemize but not if you take the standard deduction which applies to the overwhelming majority of the population and likely to you.
quote:

Is it really best to tie up all that money? That could be used for a down payment on a rental property if I chose to get off my arse and jump into that world

Ultimately your call… you are correct, a lot of things you can do with this cash. For someone single and 31 I feel like that’s a lot of cash on hand. Personally, I’m also not really a big on emergency funds unless you don’t have any assets. That doesn’t apply to you. You could tap brokerage and Roth IRA for emergencies if needed.. plus the $20k cash you’d still have after paying down mortgage.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:52 am to
quote:

My understanding is that I would need to get it re-appraised and my loan will need to be less than 20% of the total value of the home.


You should have been provided a specific PMI elimination number when you signed up. You "should" only need an appraisal if you are trying to claim added equity from property value increases to hit the 20% equity mark.
Posted by Tigerroc
Member since Jun 2017
257 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:43 pm to
Agree. Max out and I wish I would have bought more Roth IRA’s. You’re in great financial shape for your age.
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