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re: What to do w/ $500,000

Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:57 pm to
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Don't mingle it with your community assets


Yeah you should have an attorney draw up an agreement that clearly states the money AND the future growth is separate property.

Inheritance like this in LA becomes community property pretty quickly even if you never touch it. The taxes owed on the interest, for example, can commingle the funds.

ETA - assuming you want it to stay separate property
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 8:21 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:17 pm to
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I’d have to check, because I have a couple and my wife has a few, each, but around 5.5% - 6.25% I believe. I’m positive none are are more than 6.5. They just combine to $88,000.00. We previously paid off the highest interest student loans.


Generally, it’s not a horrible idea to get rid of high interest student loan debt. In your case, you may be eligible for tax deduction on the interest and any interest on a money market is taxed in the current year…there’s not a huge spread between them.

The Dave Ramsey logic in this thread of “pay off the loan to free up additional cash flow” is an overly simplistic way to view the situation.

Unless you need the funds in the next year or two, I would invest in the market. You’ll still get some dividend yield if you are interested in that cash flow for immediate usage. Money market funds are fine for short term but you won’t be able to lock in these rates past a year.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:33 pm to
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Random internet people aren't going to give you the advice you really need.




Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:25 pm to
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Seems like way too much money to risk when yields are frothy.
What do you mean?
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:02 am to
The Rock says...... take all the money, turn it sideways..... AND
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
1818 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:30 am to
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Is a FA recommended for pretty much any time you receive a lump sum like this?


No. No. No.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1170 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:56 am to
I would put it all in VOO. Make minimum payments on my debt. In 10 years you will have 2MM. This is a simple math problem.
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I love VOO but your math has assumptions that are too optimistic for me. So it going to double twice in 10 years? Not likely. It can happen, but that is higher than typical. But the OP could do well sitting in VOO for 10 years, so not a bad option.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:41 am to
Good for you that you had someone like this in your life.

We don't know your age or risk tolerance, but you sound thoughtful and responsible with your spending habits.

Do you live in an area with reasonable economic growth? I do and am doing well in real estate. I built most of my wealth in the stock market. Once I had some money, I began investing in real estate. First with some rentals, but now thru new construction and occasional commercial. Having a decent amount of liquid assets made this a good option. Where you live affects margins, though.

Rental properties can have 2 approaches. Keep investment at a minimum and go for good cash flow with longer mortgage. Or invest more into them, and focus on total cost over long term with short mortgages and weak cash flow until they are paid off.

New construction can be very profitable. Residential is generally less risky than commercial. Buy a lot, hire a builder, agree on house design with your builder, get a construction loan, build a spec house, and sell it. With a decent amount of liquid assets, banks will love you and loan enough money to build the house. Your out of pocket is pretty low when the house sells in a reasonable amount of time. Talking with a couple of builders and realtors in your area could let you know what margins to expect. This really works in a strong economic area because companies are hiring and people with good jobs buy houses.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1170 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:59 am to
Don't mingle it with your community assets
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Good advice but you have to handle it carefully with your wife. This could easily cause relationship strain. But still good advice.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1170 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:24 am to
I just wrote a novel knowing you might not read it. And real estate is not for everyone. So here are more comments...that you might not read.

I tried to think of my money in 3 buckets over the years. Keep some in each bucket.

Short term money. Emergency fund and money I might need in the next year. Money market, CD, Bonds.

Medium term. 1-5 years. Stock market with a mix of individual stocks that I buy/sell depending on results and new opportunities. Keeps me paying attention to the market. Also, some indexes like VOO. Real estate spec houses.

Long term. 5+ years. Stock market indexes and mutual funds. Seldom change these. They increase nicely over time. Also, my consistent individual stock winners (AAPL, HD, BRK types). Rental properties if that works for you.
Posted by southside
SW of Monroe
Member since Aug 2018
586 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:27 am to
I have no valuable input except Congrats!!!
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1170 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:39 am to
Several have given you good advice.

Keep your 3% mortgage. Don't pay extra on it.

Pay extra on student loans to reduce or eliminate. Paying off in full depends on what you would do with that amount of money. Opportunity cost of money is real, but 6.5% isn't cheap these days.

Once you are in position to buy a vehicle with cash, you can do that for life with proper discipline. Save/invest for the next vehicle ahead of time.

Knowing you expect to move in a few years, it sure is nice to be able to buy a house without being contingent on selling old house for a down payment. Reduces stress. Can get you the house if ever in a multiple offer situation. So have some liquid assets at that time.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:04 am to
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The Rock says...... take all the money, turn it sideways..... AND




shove it up your candy arse?
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1028 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:09 pm to
lol. yup
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17866 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:46 pm to
Pay off the student loans today.

Invest the rest in the stock market

Take the $890 student loan payment every month and put it in a savings acct and in 3 years use that money to buy a vehicle
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:30 pm to
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I’d have to check, because I have a couple and my wife has a few, each, but around 5.5% - 6.25% I believe. I’m positive none are are more than 6.5. They just combine to $88,000.00. We previously paid off the highest interest student loans.


Student loans are simple interest and your money markets and other investments are compounding. So even assuming a very conservative 5.5% compounding investment return and high end 6.25% student loan simple interest cost, you'll come out ahead paying the loans down over time.

Also, if you're on the SAVE plan and make timely payments, your balance can never go up because of interest, to say nothing of forgiveness possibilities.
Posted by Gings5
HTX
Member since Jul 2016
8002 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:06 am to
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For the other stuff, definitely don't pay down house.

Can you explain why?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124000 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:37 am to
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For the other stuff, definitely don't pay down house.
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Can you explain why?
Let's assume the OP marginal tax rate ($150k/yr MFJ) is 26% fed/state.

$300K loan at 3.1% runs ~$15.4K in annual interest cost. The $15.4K is deductible at marginal rate, so real cost of carry totals ~$11.4K. Paying off the home would save that $11.4K/yr

Meanwhile, ROI on $300K at 5.4% (his current MM rate) is $16.2K (+$4.8K over paying off the home). Were he to invest the $300K at a 10% ROI, he'd be ahead $18.6K/yr.

The combination of a low (3.1%) rate, and tax advantage, makes it a fairly straightforward decision.
Posted by Gings5
HTX
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:43 am to
Great explanation, thank you!
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
3485 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:11 pm to
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Residential is generally less risky than commercial.




Ive been remote for like 17 or 18 yrs, so this doesnt really affect me personally- but im wondering what you are hearing in re to ‘return to work’ policies , since you are intimately familiar and have skin in the game.. i am hearing mixed things; of course most employers want employees back in the office, but since the labor market is tight - many employees are tying their job searches to which jobs let them work from home, at least for a few days per week.. What are you hearing re commercial real estate and return to work ?
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