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re: What do you consider "middle class"?

Posted on 4/17/09 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 4/17/09 at 1:05 pm to
Just for the record, I'm no Plebeian. I just play one on TD.com.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/17/09 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

lower class - blue collar workers
middle class - white collar workers & professionals
upper class - old money who live off of investments

ETA: class is independent of income, IMO.

What about the Aristocrats and Kleptocrats?
Posted by clamdip
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Posted on 4/18/09 at 11:06 am to
quote:

IMO:

Lower Class: Up to $15K
Lower/Middle: $15K - $50K
Middle: $50K - $250K
Upper/Middle: $250K - $500K
Upper: $500K and above

What say you, Amurica?



I'd say net worth matters a lot more, imo, in this discussion than a salary at a given point in time.

In other words, someone who was making $75K a year and then starts his own business and the first year makes $500K does not immediately go from middle to upper. And I highly doubt they'd immediately change their cultural and spending habits after one good year.
Posted by LSUwag
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Posted on 4/18/09 at 2:50 pm to
Middle class should be defined as those who actually pay taxes.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/18/09 at 3:41 pm to
In Louisiana...in terms of household income:

Lower class..under 20K
Lower/middle...21K-35K
Middle..35K-60K
Upper Middle..61K-90K
Upper...over 91K

Keep in mind that it's a bell curve. The vast majority of families in La. are in the 30-60 range. It is not an equal distribution.

Also consider that older families making 80K are not as rich as young families making 80K.
Posted by saderade
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Posted on 4/18/09 at 5:55 pm to
In LA, I would put it a little lower the OP's numbers. 100k for a household is not upper class.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/18/09 at 6:15 pm to
I would bet that 100K per household in La. is in the top 10 percentile. Easy.
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 4/18/09 at 6:43 pm to
90th percentile income for the entire US is 75k as of 2007. LINK ][LINK]
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
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Posted on 4/19/09 at 1:55 am to
Good find fizz, but caveat that your figures are true for an individual, not a household
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 4/19/09 at 2:41 am to
indeed, i completely overlooked that.
Posted by kylmatt
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Posted on 4/19/09 at 10:41 am to
quote:

With respect to annual gross income, where do you draw the line between lower class, lower-middle class, middle class, upper-middle class, and upper class?


Another way of looking at it:

When you go to work, if your name is on your shirt then your lower class.

When you go to work, if your name is on your desk then your middle class.

When you go to work, if your name is on the building then your upper class.

Posted by Cold Cous Cous
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Posted on 4/19/09 at 10:46 am to
2:40 am? Damn dude, do you come in from the bar and head straight to the money board?
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 4/19/09 at 1:12 pm to
I got home, microwaved some leftovers and got some water, and sat down at the computer for 20m or so.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 4/19/09 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

if your name is on your shirt then your lower class.

if your name is on your desk then your middle class.

if your name is on the building then your upper class.


And if you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" then you skipped spelling class.....

Posted by kylmatt
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Posted on 4/19/09 at 6:33 pm to
i did skip... notice no caps either... just getting the message acroxx...
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 4/19/09 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

lower class - blue collar workers
middle class - white collar workers & professionals
upper class - old money who live off of investments


What are retired people? Don't say old....
Posted by MileHigh
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Posted on 4/19/09 at 8:27 pm to
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Keep in mind that it's a bell curve.

Link. last I looked income does not follow a bell curve in terms of distribution. It has a very very very long tail (i.e. 200M-1b in income), and doesn't fit the model.

Can you provide facts to back this up? Some sort of study, or a graph or raw data?
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/19/09 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

income does not follow a bell curve in terms of distribution.


plus 1.

BTW: What do you mean "in terms of distribution"? A bell curve is inherently "in terms of distribution".

That's like saying "a double-stack costs 99 cents in terms of how much a double-stack costs".
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/2/09 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

When you go to work, if your name is on your shirt then your lower class.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
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Posted on 5/2/09 at 6:27 pm to
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