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re: What -% do u see the S&P rise each yr over the next 11 years? Conservative and Bullish

Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23512 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:33 pm to
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profits will skyrocket and life will get cheaper.
I’d love to be convinced of this. How will life improve for the under educated low to middle class once they begin offering even less or next to nothing to the work force?
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3143 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 2:17 am to
I’m preparing for a major recession.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36482 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:01 pm to
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Yeah I'm shooting for 62 but we'll see what I can do with health insurance. 20% and I'd probably be able to retire 5+ years earlier. It would be awesome to know I've only got ten years or so left.

Hell, I'm 37 but if we average 20% gains for the next 10 years I'll probably retire before I'm 50
Posted by Hitman67
Lumberton, TX
Member since Jul 2024
269 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:12 pm to
This part is something that people will need to get a handle on quick. There will be some people with life purpose issues no doubt. My guess would be some type of tax these corporations will have to pay and people will get a type of basic income. Products will be cheaper so it's possible it will be better for the poor and lower income. In addition, things people do today for hobbies will likely turn into jobs if they can find a way to monetize it. People will have tons of time to come up with ideas.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9781 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:18 pm to
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If we do 20+% per year for the next decade I'll retire in my mid 50s



I'm just scared that my 'today' goals are going to look stupid in 15 years because of inflation.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23512 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 2:14 pm to
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This part is something that people will need to get a handle on quick. There will be some people with life purpose issues no doubt. My guess would be some type of tax these corporations will have to pay and people will get a type of basic income. Products will be cheaper so it's possible it will be better for the poor and lower income. In addition, things people do today for hobbies will likely turn into jobs if they can find a way to monetize it. People will have tons of time to come up with ideas.
I appreciate the response.

I am concerned, but I like hearing that there could be a positive outcome.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10848 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 2:24 pm to
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things people do today for hobbies will likely turn into jobs if they can find a way to monetize it. People will have tons of time to come up with ideas.

So learn a trade?
Posted by Hitman67
Lumberton, TX
Member since Jul 2024
269 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 2:34 pm to
Yes, I think things like plumbers and electricians will be hard for a robot to do initially. White collar jobs will be the first to go. Some things like medical care will use robots but will still need humans for comfort.

However, I was thinking about more traditional hobbies. Think of all the people who will have time to do things they never or didn't get to do much. It could be as easy as fishing. If you like to fish, you probably could charge for taking people fishing every day of the week.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9079 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 6:00 am to
Quantum computing

There is a brink we are about to hit that will explode. You think these companies pay CEOs tens of millions per year for 3% growth? They are pushing the limits every day.

10.5% - that’s the lifetime average and a good place to start.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:12 am to
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S and p 500
Conservative 8% Bullish 14%

DJIA Conservative 10% Bullish 18%

Nasdaq Conservative 15% Bullish 25%


This would almost be mathematically impossible. The DJIA and the Nasdaq out performing the S&P500 over any appreciable amount of time can’t really happen.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16714 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:46 am to
If we did 20%/yr inflation would be thru the roof and salary would not keep up.
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