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re: Victims of GameStock pump and dump--good article this morning in WSJ

Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:09 am to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:09 am to
Dude was trying to time a bubble for a quick buck. That's a risky strategy.

Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Getting 6% from a blue chip vs 6% from a small spec is not equal. You lost if you are in the small spec.



Why?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:25 am to
In what way is he a victim?
Posted by Great Plains Tiger
Member since Sep 2005
282 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:27 am to
For every buyer there is a seller. Mr. Vergara was buying when I selling.

10% of trading is knowing when to buy 90% is knowing when to sell.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7908 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:33 am to
You have to consider risk somehow when you invest. Just turning around at the finish line and assessing performance is not necessarily telling.

If I'm investing in a blue chip big cap stock and want 7% return, taking that same money and putting it in a small cap, I need 11% or 12% or it wasn't worth the added risk, if I said risk hurdle was 4 or 5% say

Professional traders always consider risk. Because I could have lost everything on some spec, the chances of losing everything or even close is minimal in a large cap blue chip so if the return is the same, the small cap wasn't the smarter investment in that scenario even though the return was the same
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 10:37 am
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4696 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:39 am to
How can you call someone a victim when they took a loan out to buy gamestop LOL he deserves to lose money
Posted by Great Plains Tiger
Member since Sep 2005
282 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:46 am to
A victim of his own greed. He wanted easy money and greed (his own) got the best of him. It’s happened before and will happen again; all part of the human condition.
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 11:08 am to
“Journalists” are dying for stories on this. If you lost 50 bucks these morons will write a cautionary tale on your experience.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34745 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 11:20 am to
quote:

I'm down $53 from my $AG purchase, I need to be in an article. ?


I placed an order for a single share of GME just to say I did it. It would've literally been at the very very top. Fortunately trading halted seconds after I hit the button and it never filled.

COULD HAVE BEEN ME!!!
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 11:45 am to
Victims?

These guys don't know the risk or this or even any volatile stock purchase?

Come on already...
Posted by Stiles
Member since Sep 2017
3454 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 11:54 am to
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Idiots These guys are getting in articles for a $1200 loss?

No shite. WSB would ban your arse posting those numbers as “loss porn.”
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 12:12 pm to
Play stupid Gamestops, win stupid prizes
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21443 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 2:54 pm to
I sold my AMC for an $1,800 short term loss and flipped what was left to TSNP. Overall, I am up about $3,000. Moral of the story, sometimes you take an L in investing. Experience teaches that you know when it is ok to take the loss to try to find another opportunity to law the money back.
Posted by jfw3535
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Member since Mar 2008
5423 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

Then Mr. Vergara, a longtime reader of the WallStreetBets page on Reddit, saw others posting about buying GameStop shares and the stock’s colossal rise.

Sounds like a totally bullshite story to me. If this guy was truly a longtime reader of WSB page, then he would have known about the short squeeze and gotten in long before the stock got to 250. Either the story is pure fiction or this guy proves the adage, a fool and his money are soon parted.
Posted by 1234567k
Baton rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2067 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 3:20 pm to
Hedge funds who short stocks have caused far more damage to people who have made much better investments .
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
4311 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 3:42 pm to
Everyone here was pumping the shite out of it. Fundamentals are strong!

Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

He bought shares at $234 each.

GameStop shares started the year around $19, zoomed to nearly $350 (and almost hit $500 in intraday trading) in late January, and then began to spiral back to earth.

So he got into the party late and then didn't get out when it peaked? Sounds like he made a poor choice.

quote:

When Tony Moy bought about $1,200 of the shares, two at $379 and two more a few days later at $228, “I knew it was, intrinsically, the wrong move,” he said.
Bought at the absolute peak and then doubled-down?

How are these people "victims?" They just made horrible decisions; welcome to the stock market.

I wonder how those people who were invested in GameStop when the big investment firms shorted it felt when they possibly sold their shares?
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 3:54 pm
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12509 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:27 pm to
Millions of people lose thousands of dollars everyday on a multitude of ventures they don’t understand.

Somehow these incidents are a big deal?
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10146 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:06 pm to
He's not a victim, he's an idiot.

quote:

He didn’t want to touch his index-fund investments, so instead he got a personal loan with an 11.19% interest rate from a credit union and used it to fund most of his GameStop purchase. He bought shares at $234 each.


This should be illegal because it's so stupid
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