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re: Trump suggests further EU Tariffs. Says AAPL must pay 25% Tariff on IPhones not made in US

Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:33 am to
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
547 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:33 am to
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My issue with the Trump sycophants is that they are wishcasting their goal onto Trump, who is promising all things to all people, which is bullshite. That would only affect the sycophants


Someone (finally) trying to stand up for the middle/working class instead of entrenched interests. This is bad?

quote:

except that he’s going about things in the most asinine, disruptive way imaginable, because he doesn’t actually know what he wants to accomplish, beyond being revered.


This is just cynical speculation on your part. Unless you have a direct line to the administration?

Your avatar suggests i am wasting my time discussing this with you.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
30048 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:39 am to
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Your avatar suggests i am wasting my time discussing this with you.

That fact that you addressed my last paragraph but not the four substantive ones before it tells me all I need to know
Posted by GrapevineTigah
Grapevine, Texas
Member since Dec 2003
23 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:51 am to
Problem is that would take years to move iPhone production to the US. The threat doesn't provide Apple a true option given economies of scale, availability of skilled workforce, parts not yet made in the US, etc. It makes no sense. And if it's just another negotiating ploy, it still doesn't make any sense, unless we're just supposed to ignore him. Maybe that's the idea?
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1642 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:04 pm to
Investors who were worried about tariffs took action months ago.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
8947 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:13 pm to
This is getting old fast. I understand the purpose of tariffs but they shouldn’t change every month. I feel like I’m living in the Jelly of the Month Club.

PS: I could forgive some of this if we were getting anything accomplished on the deficit, but we’re not.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
3368 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:10 pm to
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It’s been so long since Trumpists have thought for themselves that their vocabularies are shrinking to match Dear Leader
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
1769 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 2:12 pm to
Good. Trump should clamp down on Apple more with dual use provisions. Apple has single handedly done more to train and support China's rise in manufacturing than any other company. They were buying 10,000 CNC machines per year and putting them in Chinese factories and training migrant rice farmers on them.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
30048 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 2:54 pm to
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HagaDaga

The Bidenistas have the opposite problem deriving from the same cause: instead of their vocabularies shrinking, it’s ever expanding further into vapid uselessness.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
275 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:31 pm to
And in the process making American stock holders hundreds of billions of dollars in profits and trillions of dollars in equity values. How dare they…
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 8:35 pm
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
1769 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:48 pm to
And in the process, building up a near peer adversary and hitching their entire business model to communist. Should have shut it down a long time ago.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38701 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:27 pm to
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Someone (finally) trying to stand up for the middle/working class instead of entrenched interests. This is bad?


How is this happening though with respect to instituting tariffs in the manner they have been?

Be specific.

You can't talk about moving manufacturing here when an absolutely crucial part of the equation is that you need to levy substantial tariffs that functionally have no chance of relenting any time soon.

That does one of two things. Either some party(ies) along the chain eat enough of the increase that people still buy foreign (at a marginally higher price) which means that manufacturing doesn't move back. Or the tariff is high enough that american based alternatives are now competitive on price with the foreign goods. This instantly raises the price of these goods, likely substantially for the end consumer. For that scenario to actually unfold, you have to be deadly serious about holding firm on the tariffs for a LONG time. If you were a manufacturer and the US instituted new tariffs on your foreign produced products, do you think it would be prudent to uproot your business and supply chain to a new country, knowing that the tariffs are almost certainly going to be reversed or substantially changed within 30 days? Think smart. Be honest.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18047 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 5:29 am to
I personally would not want my iPhone made in US by this labor pool but I guess robots and computers do most of the work. AppleCare would be a must
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 5:37 am
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
522 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:31 am to
Dude would be far better off with some trade principles and a structured approach / transparent change plan to implementing them vs this erratic amplitude / trough financial roller coaster he is creating for his citizens and world.

As I was told by an energy trader in my company, he has created (erratic) an untradable environment.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25734 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:35 am to
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what’s the goal of these negotiations?


Apparently to cause discomfort (and buying opportunities).

Job well done so far.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
18677 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 11:05 am to
He has no plan. He’s totally winging it. It’s gonna be a long 3 1/2 years
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38701 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 6:55 pm to
Man these lasted like 3 days before they got pushed out again
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71572 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 7:05 pm to
The July 9th date is literally just the 90 day pause


lol
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
3195 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 8:04 pm to
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Someone (finally) trying to stand up for the middle/working class instead of entrenched interests. This is bad?


What are your thoughts on the pause?

Why would Trump delay brining these jobs back?
This post was edited on 5/25/25 at 8:05 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87887 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 7:49 am to
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Apparently to cause discomfort (and buying opportunities).

Job well done so far.


30days ago you said it was crashing the economy
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
30048 posts
Posted on 5/26/25 at 8:44 am to
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30days ago you said it was crashing the economy

If you were a serious person, it would baffle me that it was somehow lost on you that Trump keeps reversing the policies that people say will crash the economy.
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