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re: Trump suggests further EU Tariffs. Says AAPL must pay 25% Tariff on IPhones not made in US
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:33 am to Joshjrn
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:33 am to Joshjrn
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My issue with the Trump sycophants is that they are wishcasting their goal onto Trump, who is promising all things to all people, which is bullshite. That would only affect the sycophants
Someone (finally) trying to stand up for the middle/working class instead of entrenched interests. This is bad?
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except that he’s going about things in the most asinine, disruptive way imaginable, because he doesn’t actually know what he wants to accomplish, beyond being revered.
This is just cynical speculation on your part. Unless you have a direct line to the administration?
Your avatar suggests i am wasting my time discussing this with you.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:39 am to CastleBravo
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Your avatar suggests i am wasting my time discussing this with you.
That fact that you addressed my last paragraph but not the four substantive ones before it tells me all I need to know

Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:51 am to Shredded
Problem is that would take years to move iPhone production to the US. The threat doesn't provide Apple a true option given economies of scale, availability of skilled workforce, parts not yet made in the US, etc. It makes no sense. And if it's just another negotiating ploy, it still doesn't make any sense, unless we're just supposed to ignore him. Maybe that's the idea?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:04 pm to Shredded
Investors who were worried about tariffs took action months ago.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:13 pm to Shredded
This is getting old fast. I understand the purpose of tariffs but they shouldn’t change every month. I feel like I’m living in the Jelly of the Month Club.
PS: I could forgive some of this if we were getting anything accomplished on the deficit, but we’re not.
PS: I could forgive some of this if we were getting anything accomplished on the deficit, but we’re not.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:10 pm to Joshjrn
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It’s been so long since Trumpists have thought for themselves that their vocabularies are shrinking to match Dear Leader

Posted on 5/23/25 at 2:12 pm to CastleBravo
Good. Trump should clamp down on Apple more with dual use provisions. Apple has single handedly done more to train and support China's rise in manufacturing than any other company. They were buying 10,000 CNC machines per year and putting them in Chinese factories and training migrant rice farmers on them.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 2:54 pm to HagaDaga
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HagaDaga
The Bidenistas have the opposite problem deriving from the same cause: instead of their vocabularies shrinking, it’s ever expanding further into vapid uselessness.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:31 pm to AaronDeTiger
And in the process making American stock holders hundreds of billions of dollars in profits and trillions of dollars in equity values. How dare they…
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:48 pm to IMSA_Fan
And in the process, building up a near peer adversary and hitching their entire business model to communist. Should have shut it down a long time ago.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:27 pm to CastleBravo
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Someone (finally) trying to stand up for the middle/working class instead of entrenched interests. This is bad?
How is this happening though with respect to instituting tariffs in the manner they have been?
Be specific.
You can't talk about moving manufacturing here when an absolutely crucial part of the equation is that you need to levy substantial tariffs that functionally have no chance of relenting any time soon.
That does one of two things. Either some party(ies) along the chain eat enough of the increase that people still buy foreign (at a marginally higher price) which means that manufacturing doesn't move back. Or the tariff is high enough that american based alternatives are now competitive on price with the foreign goods. This instantly raises the price of these goods, likely substantially for the end consumer. For that scenario to actually unfold, you have to be deadly serious about holding firm on the tariffs for a LONG time. If you were a manufacturer and the US instituted new tariffs on your foreign produced products, do you think it would be prudent to uproot your business and supply chain to a new country, knowing that the tariffs are almost certainly going to be reversed or substantially changed within 30 days? Think smart. Be honest.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 5:29 am to Shredded
I personally would not want my iPhone made in US by this labor pool but I guess robots and computers do most of the work. AppleCare would be a must
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 5:37 am
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:31 am to Shredded
Dude would be far better off with some trade principles and a structured approach / transparent change plan to implementing them vs this erratic amplitude / trough financial roller coaster he is creating for his citizens and world.
As I was told by an energy trader in my company, he has created (erratic) an untradable environment.
As I was told by an energy trader in my company, he has created (erratic) an untradable environment.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:35 am to Joshjrn
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what’s the goal of these negotiations?
Apparently to cause discomfort (and buying opportunities).
Job well done so far.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 11:05 am to Shredded
He has no plan. He’s totally winging it. It’s gonna be a long 3 1/2 years
Posted on 5/25/25 at 6:55 pm to eddieray
Man these lasted like 3 days before they got pushed out again 

Posted on 5/25/25 at 7:05 pm to JohnnyKilroy
The July 9th date is literally just the 90 day pause
lol
lol
Posted on 5/25/25 at 8:04 pm to CastleBravo
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Someone (finally) trying to stand up for the middle/working class instead of entrenched interests. This is bad?
What are your thoughts on the pause?
Why would Trump delay brining these jobs back?
This post was edited on 5/25/25 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 5/26/25 at 7:49 am to Lakeboy7
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Apparently to cause discomfort (and buying opportunities).
Job well done so far.
30days ago you said it was crashing the economy


Posted on 5/26/25 at 8:44 am to SDVTiger
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30days ago you said it was crashing the economy
If you were a serious person, it would baffle me that it was somehow lost on you that Trump keeps reversing the policies that people say will crash the economy.
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