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re: Top 1% income

Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:27 pm to
Is that individual or household income?
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 5:32 pm to
Louisiana one posted a few post ago is household
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 5:51 pm to
Being in the 1% really has nothing to do with income. It's all about the ownership of financial and other assets, i.e. wealth. I have known people with nice six figure incomes who have little real wealth and who were in financial trouble. A couple who didn't have the liquid cash to pay their taxes.

And there are plenty of people worth eight figures who structure things such that they don't have large taxable incomes.
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:36 pm to
The original post is about INCOME not NET WORTH.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:42 pm to
Yeah dude I can read. But when you read the linked article you can see it is referencing “the 1%” people commonly discuss. Which bears only a limited relationship to income.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 8:49 am to
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Top 1%: According to a SmartAsset analysis of IRS tax filer data, to be in the top 1% of earners in Louisiana, you need to make at least $458,269 annually. This is $194,388 less than the national household figure of $652,657.

Top 5%: The income threshold for the top 5% in Louisiana is $199,454

Top 10%: The income for the top 10% in Louisiana is $217,082

75th percentile: The 75th percentile for annual salary in Louisiana is $66,900.

Median income: The median income in Louisiana is $51,073


This is not correct
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:04 am to
How dare you question that Louisiana math.

Obviously copied & pasted without actually reading it Looks like the AI google uses pulled the info from various sources because when I looked again this morning that's exactly what it says. I may have also found the sources:

Forbes shows top 1% in LA is $471,506; top 5% is $199,454
Statistical atlas has top 5% at $294k (probably more accurate)
Yahoo finance & Nasdaq both show the $217,082 for the top 10%
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:17 am to
With all the extras Latoya prob clears stealing an extra $600k on top of her mayor salary.

Or to be 1% in Louisiana just an extra $200k would do it.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 9:22 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 1:03 pm to
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I don’t know anyone personally that makes this much and I probably know 1000 people.




You know there is another social phenomenon that indicates your income is likely to be within 15% of everyone you know?

Makes sense.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 1:10 pm to
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You know there is another social phenomenon that indicates your income is likely to be within 15% of everyone you know?



Maybe if you live in Bunkie, but probably not if you live in a top 50 US city. Definitely not if you work in a professional setting in a top 50 setting.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:14 pm to
quote:


You know there is another social phenomenon that indicates your income is likely to be within 15% of everyone you know?


Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 4:14 pm to
I really don’t know but a few rich people and certainly didn’t know any growing up. It’s impressive so many have made it here

Growing up in the south the only jobs you know that exist are government, plant, or some form of sharecropping. When you get to lsu they offer 4 types of degree: government, plant, share cropping, and sell insurance degree. Nobody ever told me I could be a tech bro and make computer programs that destroy the fabric of society or be a finance bro and hollow out America through mergers and acquisitions
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 5:56 pm to
The only way I thought you could rich while I was growing up was owning a car dealership or striking oil.

One thing I’ve learned dealing with many 1%ers and .1%ers is that in lot of cases, luck of being in right place at the right time is a huge factor in attaining that wealth.


Also the perceived skew of income with TD is that a lot of people, especially on the MT are college educated and that people in the upper tier are more likely to self-identify. No one on here is admitting to being poor. Some likely exaggerate as well.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 6:00 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 6:21 pm to
It’s more fun to pretend to be poor on here because society tells us to look up to rich people but in practice I’m not sure I’ve met one that can do simple things like change a flat. I think most of the rich people you meet in the south are descendants of people that struck oil or owned a car dealership that “diversified” ie hire people that know how to do the work and call themselves the boss

Because the south has always been America’s Africa all our wealth has primarily been from resource extraction where the natives get a little check and the guy from somewhere else gets most of it but he doesn’t want to live here because it’s hot and we have mosquitos

Sam Walton is one of the few to ever “make it out” but exporting Arkansas trailer park culture to the world was probably a net negative. The stores even look like giant trailers
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 6:23 pm
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Sam Walton is one of the few to ever “make it out” but exporting Arkansas trailer park culture to the world was probably a net negative.


That’s very debatable and if it is a net negative, it’s only because the government allowed Wal-Mart to game the welfare system.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

You know there is another social phenomenon that indicates your income is likely to be within 15% of everyone you know? Makes sense.


Feels like there are quite a few assumptions and definitions needed here.

Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:37 am to
Business owners.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:25 am to
quote:

el Gaucho


"Life's not fair!"
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 5:26 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:49 am to
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boomtown143


Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 6:08 am to
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Hard to believe the numbers in this article:

Investopedia

Am I correct that this means 1 in 100 earn over 800k annually?
Yes, that is the claim. But > $800K is not accurate. Overall, it is a pretty awful article.

First off, the authors conflate household and individual income levels, which would seem so rudimentary as to require deliberate effort in getting it wrong. HHI runs ~ 130-140% of individual income. They also pick and choose based on differing survey numbers/techniques suited to narrative.

Here are national household income numbers:


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