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re: Tomorrow could be a rough one

Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:30 pm to
Yes. Shorter term debt. Already done. Possibly floating bank rate, although I'm not there yet. Lessened yield stocks, but that's already done as well. I'm thinking if you haven't done anything, you might consider not doing anything immediately. Catch me on PT, I'll go into more detail about my thought process.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:48 pm to
Anything in TIPS? The concern is inflation, but TIPS have fallen with the rest of the bond market this year.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:49 pm to
Another place for this conversation please.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:04 pm to
, I'm not going to follow you around. I'm just asking generic questions for the thread.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:41 pm to
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Another place for this conversation please.


Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167247 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:16 pm to
Apparently this account had 120K shares of SVXY on margin and rode it all the day down two days ago and again today.



Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:19 pm to
Seems absurd for a retail account
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85034 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:09 pm to
Fire that guy.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:34 pm to
Now futures are up big. This is so fricked up.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84882 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

Now futures are up big. This is so fricked up.



On no actual news either.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:52 pm to
All the news during this has been good news. Good news is bad news again.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:53 pm to
Until the Fed assures that they wont hike hard and fast allowing the economy to cool slowly I think you will see a slow movement downward.

Inflation is still under control.

Market is spooked by inflation concerns thus rate hikes again sooner than what the FED has hinted (which was mid year 2018).

I actually think rate hikes will be good for the economy. Short the market; bet for volatility to ensue; get into some short term debt instruments and money markets.

Going long right now is not a good idea in my opinion.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 8:02 pm
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10266 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:55 pm to
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In the long run I've paid more premium than I have received benefit. But even that isn't as obvious as it would seem. In the long run when I've collected the insurance settlement, it has allowed me to buy at near market lows, or at a minimum, lower lows. It worked perfectly during the great recession, and the bull market that followed.


Why couldn’t you just save this premium in a money market account and then buy even more stock at the “near market lows”
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:57 pm to
We printed more money in the last 8 years with no inflation and now it is a concern? So they raise rates, so what? We are still at really low rates. It’s not like we are going to be at 5-6%.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19598 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:17 pm to
When rates hit the low to mid 3s which I think will be in 8-16 months I think we will start to see this bull die out.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35376 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:19 pm to
Based on what exactly?



I really want to be an a-hole, but I’ve been warned against it
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:21 pm to
Why?

ETA: the futures are now losing steam.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 8:22 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:23 pm to
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When rates hit the low to mid 3s which I think will be in 8-16 months
Which rates? The 30 year t-bond is already at 3.13%.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:24 pm to
I assumed the 10 year.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35376 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:27 pm to
I’m ready for the fed to announce a delay in rate hikes and the DJIA’s first 3000 point day in history
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