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Posted on 2/11/25 at 5:11 pm to Morpheus
Probably because the Chinese are coming for the market
Posted on 2/11/25 at 5:36 pm to Morpheus
quote:what could it be?
Tesla is more than cars and trucks so I’m convinced it’s something else
Posted on 2/11/25 at 5:46 pm to Morpheus
Growth stock whose primary business the growth evaporated. Sales are down big in the short term, and competition is catching up. China was the their hottest market for a while and competition there has crushed every ev maker.
Tesla has one of the lowest profit margins on vehicles in the industry and majority comes from environmental credits in Europe where sales are falling quickly.
Not even counting Elon's current politics which alienates at least part of their customer base, if anything you could say the majority of their customer base.
This one seems pretty obvious
Tesla has one of the lowest profit margins on vehicles in the industry and majority comes from environmental credits in Europe where sales are falling quickly.
Not even counting Elon's current politics which alienates at least part of their customer base, if anything you could say the majority of their customer base.
This one seems pretty obvious
Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:02 pm to I Love Bama
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You guys don't know what is coming with Optimus. Like your brains can't even comprehend it.
I can't wait to make a post about this in 2 years
What is optimus going to do/show by 2027?
I remember when full self driving (like actual level 4+ autonomy) was supposed to be a year away 7 years ago.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:02 pm to UltimaParadox
It's cute that you think Tesla is a car company.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:03 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:13 pm to VABuckeye
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I've always felt that Tesla was a house of cards personally.
Teslas valuation has always been inflated because it’s a money printer for options dealers
Posted on 2/11/25 at 7:32 pm to bayoubengals88
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Looks like it's going more or less straight to 280.
Good. Hoping for $250 or less. Not sure when I'll start buying back in.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:37 pm to Morpheus
Their PE is 76. Usually means inflated stock price.
Revenues were up last year, profits down.
Revenues were up last year, profits down.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:35 am to I Love Bama
I watched that link for five minutes and didn't hear anything about Optimus Prime?
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:09 am to VABuckeye
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the truck is a bust
I don't know much at all about Tesla. But I wouldn't say the truck is a bust. Its the most recognized car arguably on the planet right now. My daughters point it out everytime they drive by, especially when they are a new color.
They have never pointed out a F150 lightning, Rivian, etc.
It also has very good performance is that correct?
Elon and Tesla have money to burn right now. They've done some amazing things. The stock was over inflated which Elon admitted due to long term future, not short term metrics. I'm not sure why there's any reason to doubt the long term play here.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:19 am to baldona
In the past I've been informed to not look at Tesla as a car company. Look at them as a patent, technology, and data collection company.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:34 am to 1BIGTigerFan
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I watched that link for five minutes and didn't hear anything about Optimus Prime?
Robot talk starts at 58:32
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:42 am to OhFace55

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Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:44 am to I Love Bama
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You guys don't know what is coming with Optimus. Like your brains can't even comprehend it.
Is Optimus the robot that was being controlled by some dudes in a room onsite at the “We, Robot” event? Yeah, I’m sure that’s two years out from production. You still waiting on a Roadster too?
It’s been mentioned but Tesla is tanking because Elon has alienated his customer base and refuses to just give people what they want - an affordable EV. He focuses on pet projects that aren’t fully hashed out. It’s also just a volatile stock in general, mostly hype.
I cashed in on my TSLA, too much baggage for me.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:46 am to Morpheus
Because the Buffett / Munger (god rest his soul) backed BYD announced 21 new models of driverless cars with deepseek technology integrated into it. if they enter the us market, tesla is f2cked bigly.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:35 am to biscuitsngravy
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:53 am to I Love Bama
Can you give me a 3 or 4 sentence synopsis instead of a 2+ hour podcast?
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:57 am to Morpheus
BYD announced a self driving vehicle for sale for less than $10k
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