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Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:18 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Will you still be earning? If so you need to do some research.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 6:38 pm to TigerBR1111
I’m inclined to take it early and invest the money. I think you’ll come out ahead in most mathematical formulas. However, life expectancy is the unknown.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 7:06 pm to kaaj24
Quality of life at 77+ for a huge percentage sucks. If you can live off $3100, I’d absolutely take it now and invest it or invest the difference and move on with life.
I see 0 reason not to take it immediately and invest 100% worst case. Why would you let someone else keep your money for you?
I see 0 reason not to take it immediately and invest 100% worst case. Why would you let someone else keep your money for you?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 7:07 pm to TigerBR1111
This will do the calculations for any scenario you can dream up… OpenSocialSecurity.com
Posted on 1/20/25 at 7:17 pm to TigerBR1111
I’d take it early unless it would prohibit Roth conversions due to tax implications.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 7:38 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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I will take social security the second it's available. What good is extra money when I'm too old to enjoy it.
Yea thats me too
Posted on 1/20/25 at 8:11 pm to TigerBR1111
If you're still working, consider the earned income is.likely to push 50-80% of your SS into taxable income. If you wait, that may not be the case. Also, consider how that extra taxable income.may increase your IRMAA.
If you dont actually need the $ now but will need as much SS as possible later once you stop working it may pay off to wait. On otherhand, if you arent gonna need the increased monthly SS later and going to invest what you get now that is likely a good option.
If you dont actually need the $ now but will need as much SS as possible later once you stop working it may pay off to wait. On otherhand, if you arent gonna need the increased monthly SS later and going to invest what you get now that is likely a good option.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:39 pm to TigerBR1111
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I will miss out on $125,000 of income by waiting until 70. It would take 10 years to recoup the lost income.
Longevity-wise, do you see yourself reasonably healthy at 83? 85? 88? The more "yes" answers you would give would push more of a "wait" decision.
The more "no" answers (and who knows you better than you and, maybe, your doctor), the more likely it is I would pull the trigger.
For my own analysis, I'm waiting until Mrs. Midnight reaches full retirement age, then we will both take benefits. While I would have a similar analysis to yours - waiting 10 years to get a payback on my own benefits, missing out on Mrs. Midnight's spousal benefit would be non-recoverable until almost 100. If we do make it to that point, I'll be just as glad that I didn't wait for such a low percentage play.
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 9:56 pm to TigerBR1111
Just had this conversation with some baws that were in that situation. My guess is don’t wait.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 11:59 pm to TigerBR1111
The two biggest variables are your health and whether you plan to keep on working/earning.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 5:14 am to TigerBR1111
If I start drawing SS at
62=$1,982
63 $2,111
64 $2,251
65 $2,439
66 $2,627
67 $2,814
68 $2,983
69 $3,208
70 $3,490
i will start when I turn 62 in a few months
62=$1,982
63 $2,111
64 $2,251
65 $2,439
66 $2,627
67 $2,814
68 $2,983
69 $3,208
70 $3,490
i will start when I turn 62 in a few months
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:52 am to TigerBR1111
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I will be full retirement age (66 and 8 months) in one month. I can start collecting $3,100 monthly now or wait until I’m 70 and collect $4,100 monthly.
I will be taking mine at 66 8 months in August. That extra 1K sure is shiny. But I've decided to take the here and now rather than the what if. You have a high interest rate debt. I'd take your SS now and pay that off. You can do that in less than a year. Then, invest the rest to put you further ahead. If you have to worry about RMD, that extra 1K might kick you in a higher tax bracket. Could affect your Medicare and IRMMA.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:54 am to TigerBR1111
Be careful listening to the posters telling you to take without asking any questions. My guess is most of them don't have much money. Good financial decisions usually involve being thoughtful and some research.
There are tax implications if you are still earning money.
There are tax implications if you are still earning money.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:22 am to KWL85
Not only tax implications. For evey $2 you earn above $22320 your annual SS is decreased by $1. Make $72000 and you get zero SS payments even though you're "taking" SS early.
This is not one size fits all. People need to do their research.
This is not one size fits all. People need to do their research.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 10:12 am to VABuckeye
“For every $2 you earn above $22320 your annual SS is decreased by $1”
But when you reach full retirement age your benefit is increased above what it would have been.without the deductible amount so it’s not like you lose it forever.
That being said if one makes $72,000 I don’t think I would draw SS.
It’s kind of a crap shoot trying to decide when to take it.I waited until 70 but I’m in good health,take no meds,and have lots of relatives that live to 80’s and 90’s.
Then you never know what might happen.In Sept at 74 I got stung by bumble bees,went into anaphylactic shock and passed out.If my wife hadn’t been here to stick me with Epi-pen I might have died.
Then I had a neighbor up the road died at 64 last year when a drunk driver hit him head on.
In retrospect I think I should,have started taking it earlier.
But when you reach full retirement age your benefit is increased above what it would have been.without the deductible amount so it’s not like you lose it forever.
That being said if one makes $72,000 I don’t think I would draw SS.
It’s kind of a crap shoot trying to decide when to take it.I waited until 70 but I’m in good health,take no meds,and have lots of relatives that live to 80’s and 90’s.
Then you never know what might happen.In Sept at 74 I got stung by bumble bees,went into anaphylactic shock and passed out.If my wife hadn’t been here to stick me with Epi-pen I might have died.
Then I had a neighbor up the road died at 64 last year when a drunk driver hit him head on.
In retrospect I think I should,have started taking it earlier.
Posted on 1/21/25 at 10:48 am to LSUA 75
Correct. At FRA you are no longer income limited though your SS may be taxed up to 85% of the distribution. That is the path I will choose to take for probably 6 months to a year until I fully retire. It also allows me to fund my IRA for one more year provided I retire after January 1 and receive earned income for that year.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 1:52 pm to TigerBR1111
So many other factors here.
Standard of living.
Other assets.
Health (do you work and plan to continue to work).
Personally, I plan to take SS very early because I have a simple life and 2000 a month would plenty to support my lifestyle.
Standard of living.
Other assets.
Health (do you work and plan to continue to work).
Personally, I plan to take SS very early because I have a simple life and 2000 a month would plenty to support my lifestyle.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 3:45 pm to WM88
If you don't make over the threshold take it as early as possible
At 66.6 months take it any way
At 66.6 months take it any way
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:46 pm to TigerBR1111
Read this book by Bob Carlson called Where’s My Money? He explains the pros and cons of taking early SS. Easy to read
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