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re: Student loan debt just topped $1.52 trillion

Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:06 pm to
Did you refi bro?
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:30 pm to
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Agreed, schools have figured out there is no limit on Federal loans so they can raise prices at will.



Yes, but if we cap or get rid of Federal loans we get an outrage from people who we are preventing from taking out $200k to get their gender studies degree.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:34 pm to
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Did you refi bro?

not with a separate company but i did "refi" to make it a 30 year repayment
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 7:54 pm to
How the shite did you get a 3.3% interest rate?
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:24 pm to
I don't understand why some college presidents don't tighten the belt on their operating plan and undercut the shite out of universities charging 50%+ more. There is no way that the cost of actually delivering said education is the driving force behind these tuition hikes. Their cost structure hasn't changed so dramatically that it would cost 2x now what it did a decade ago to educate a student.
Posted by Azazello
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:36 pm to
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Their cost structure hasn't changed so dramatically that it would cost 2x now what it did a decade ago to educate a student.


Perhaps they're increasing costs with the belief that there will be a major correction in the near future? I don't blame them for accepting risk-free money from the federal government.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 8:38 pm
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:44 pm to
A bailout is inevitable and will get someone elected.
Posted by bamaphan13
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 7:28 am to
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I don't understand why some college presidents don't tighten the belt on their operating plan and undercut the shite out of universities charging 50%+ more. There is no way that the cost of actually delivering said education is the driving force behind these tuition hikes. Their cost structure hasn't changed so dramatically that it would cost 2x now what it did a decade ago to educate a student.



Because most 18yr old kids don't care...they prefer new shiny things like lazy rivers, waterslides, palatial dorms, etc.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:04 am to
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Serious question. Could you go get a degree in Theology , and go $350k in the hole partying it up at a expensive college . Then, join a religious order that takes a vow of poverty? Debt collector calls up. "Yep, I'm a Benedictan Brother. Yep, I have no money and own nothing. Sorry for partying."


I’ve seen a couple of Gofundme drives for women entering orders to clear their student loan debt. Apparently, some flat out won’t take you if you owe money.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:15 am to
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I don't understand why some college presidents don't tighten the belt on their operating plan and undercut the shite out of universities charging 50%+ more. There is no way that the cost of actually delivering said education is the driving force behind these tuition hikes. Their cost structure hasn't changed so dramatically that it would cost 2x now what it did a decade ago to educate a student.



The admission standards at some of these universities are very competitive. They have the luxury to turn students away.

This isn't like operating a hotel where you need to undercut the competition next door to stay at full occupancy. They stay at full occupancy regardless of cost.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:45 am to
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i couldn't imagine starting to pay that 70 this year, and that's assuming no interest for 10 years. it would probably be double that if i just let it sit



It's almost as if some fields of college study leave people completely unprepared for managing life
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:58 pm to
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How the shite did you get a 3.3% interest rate?


go to school before you. they went up over time

the private one was like 6.8% (Why i just paid it all off yesterday)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:00 pm to
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A bailout is inevitable and will get someone elected.

if the government bails out people with student loan debt after i sacrificed so much to minimize it and pay it off quickly, i may legit go ted kaczynski crazy. that would be such fricking utter bullshite
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 3:32 pm to
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if the government bails out people with student loan debt after i sacrificed so much to minimize it and pay it off quickly, i may legit go ted kaczynski crazy. that would be such fricking utter bullshite

Hell, I sacrificed so that I could pay my graduate school and my wife's graduate school in cash. I would expect a full re-fund if they plan on clearing student loans.

Now, I'd be okay if they forgave interest. But, frick wiping the principle away.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 5:57 pm to
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Now, I'd be okay if they forgave interest.

no way

only if they pro-rated what i would have paid in interest had i not paid it back early and refunded that money to me
Posted by shotcaller1
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:19 am to
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I would expect a full re-fund if they plan on clearing student loans.


Same. People will die if the government started forgiving student loans outright
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 7:47 am to
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This post was edited on 2/15/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 3:02 pm to
I can't foresee a full blown bail out. If anything, I think we'll see a reduction in the maximum percentage of one's income that can go towards loans (currently 10% of discretionary under REPAYE) and a reduction in the number of on time payments before someone reaches (taxable) loan forgiveness (currently 240 and 300, depending on your repayment type). I seriously doubt public interest (120 payments, tax free forgiveness) will be getting any better, especially considering current pushes to claw it back.

But anyway, I think that would basically fly under the political radar, unlike any kind of "bail out" which would be headline news for months.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 3:04 pm
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 7:46 pm to
Neither junior nor his parents are receiving proper economic instruction in our government school system. Possibly be design.
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 7:53 pm to
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I don't understand why some college presidents don't tighten the belt on their operating plan and undercut the shite out of universities charging 50%+ more. There is no way that the cost of actually delivering said education is the driving force behind these tuition hikes. Their cost structure hasn't changed so dramatically that it would cost 2x now what it did a decade ago to educate a student.


Check out what has been going on at Purdue since Mitch Daniels took over. I don't know the details, but he's been viewed as an innovator in lowering tuition costs.
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