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Student loan debt just topped $1.52 trillion
Posted on 5/16/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 5/16/18 at 1:05 pm
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According to the United States Federal Reserve, outstanding student loan debt has reached an all-time high of $1.52 trillion—up in the last ten years from $619 billion—an increase of over 145%. The new number surpasses all auto and credit card debts held by Americans and sees no signs of slowing.
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Currently, over half of student loan borrowers leaving school owe at least $20,000. That’s double, up from 25 percent in the last decade. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau released a study that analyzed borrowers who began repaying loans from 2002 to 2014 and looked at their repayment status through 2016. The data suggests that:
At least 40 percent of borrowers owe over $30,000.
Thirty percent of student loan borrowers are behind their loan balances after five years in repayment.
50 percent of student loan borrowers are over 34 when they start repaying their loans.
60 percent of those who cannot reduce their balances are delinquent.
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This is going to be a disaster of epic proportions.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 1:11 pm to Azazello
We’ll see much lower rates of homeownership and fewer people starting businesses.
Cheap loans were madness.
Cheap loans were madness.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 1:14 pm to Lima Whiskey
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We’ll see much lower rates of homeownership and fewer people starting businesses.
Cheap loans were madness.
And hopefully lower costs of attending universities.
I was looking at my budget this morning and messing with future planning. I think we can save $120k by the time my 2 kids are entering college. I looked at that number and thought, "That's probably not enough."
That's absurd.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 1:24 pm to StringedInstruments
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And hopefully lower costs of attending universities.
There is no reason to believe that this will happen
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I was looking at my budget this morning and messing with future planning. I think we can save $120k by the time my 2 kids are entering college. I looked at that number and thought, "That's probably not enough."
That's absurd.
It's absolutely absurd
Posted on 5/16/18 at 1:25 pm to StringedInstruments
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And hopefully lower costs of attending universities.
End the federal loan programs, and it will happen.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 1:30 pm to Lima Whiskey
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End the federal loan programs, and it will happen.
This is really the only way
College tuition has outpaced inflation by double every year since the 1950s
Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:10 pm to Powerman
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This is really the only way
Agreed, schools have figured out there is no limit on Federal loans so they can raise prices at will.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:17 pm to Azazello
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This is going to be a disaster of epic proportions
If the federal government wasn’t involved I would agree with you. With a debt this astronomical with nothing tangible attached to it one would think the foundation would have already started to give. I mean who goes under in this situation? All of the pressure is on the student.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:44 pm to 13SaintTiger
The effects are going to be felt for 50+ years.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:23 pm to Lima Whiskey
Federal loan programs have already begun to be dismantled by Trump (see the upcoming cap on post graduate loans he's implementing).
But they'll end effectively because the Treasury will be out of money around 2021, once the CBO says the entire federal budget will be consumed by Social Security, Medicare and interest on the debt.
It'll be difficult to keep undergraduate loans intact when the government will have to issue debt (probably at rates of 4%+ by then) just fund those 3 items, not to mention the rest of the federal government operations.
Higher education is the only bubble leftover from the last 20 years or so that hasn't popped.
Paraphrasing Margaret Thatcher, sooner or later the government will run out of other people's money. It will play out as a combination of no one will want to buy our debt (which is already beginning with respect to Treasury auctions) and/or the Fed will be the main buyer of Treasury debt, effectively printing money, which devalues our currency and penalizes savers/incentivizes debt as they try to inflate away the coming debt tsunami.
But they'll end effectively because the Treasury will be out of money around 2021, once the CBO says the entire federal budget will be consumed by Social Security, Medicare and interest on the debt.
It'll be difficult to keep undergraduate loans intact when the government will have to issue debt (probably at rates of 4%+ by then) just fund those 3 items, not to mention the rest of the federal government operations.
Higher education is the only bubble leftover from the last 20 years or so that hasn't popped.
Paraphrasing Margaret Thatcher, sooner or later the government will run out of other people's money. It will play out as a combination of no one will want to buy our debt (which is already beginning with respect to Treasury auctions) and/or the Fed will be the main buyer of Treasury debt, effectively printing money, which devalues our currency and penalizes savers/incentivizes debt as they try to inflate away the coming debt tsunami.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:38 pm to Lima Whiskey
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End the federal loan programs, and it will happen.
Credit supply and the rise in college tuition: Evidence from the expansion in federal student aid programs
Causality established
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When students fund their education through loans, changes in student borrowing and tuition are interlinked. Higher tuition costs raise loan demand, but loan supply also affects equilibrium tuition costs—for example, by relaxing students’ funding constraints. To resolve this simultaneity problem, we exploit detailed student-level financial data and changes in federal student aid programs to identify the impact of increased student loan funding on tuition. We find that institutions more exposed to changes in the subsidized federal loan program increased their tuition disproportionately around these policy changes, with a sizable pass-through effect on tuition of about 65 percent. We also find that Pell Grant aid and the unsubsidized federal loan program have pass-through effects on tuition, although these are economically and statistically not as strong. The subsidized loan effect on tuition is most pronounced for expensive, private institutions that are somewhat, but not among the most, selective.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 3:45 pm to StringedInstruments
Universities, of all stripes, have made off like bandits as a result of student loans and aren't doing squat doodlie to stem costs...these bastions of liberalism have nothing on anyone nor anything when it comes to hogging the trough.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:24 pm to GoIrish02
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Federal loan programs have already begun to be dismantled by Trump (see the upcoming cap on post graduate loans he's implementing
This is the wrong place to start. We need to cap undergraduate loans first and foremost, since that is the vast majority of borrowing and also where most of the problems occur.
We shouldnt start limiting the borrowing power of people going for advanced degrees who have a much higher probability of paying back their loans.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:26 pm to wfallstiger
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Universities, of all stripes, have made off like bandits as a result of student loans and aren't doing squat doodlie to stem costs...these bastions of liberalism have nothing on anyone nor anything when it comes to hogging the trough.
This is the answer. Everyone makes out and leaves the students holding the bag.
It’s honestly a perfect money making scheme. High profits, no risk (since debt is owned by the gov), no price ceiling.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:26 pm to Lima Whiskey
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End the federal loan programs
An easier step would be to end the college remedial track.
If you have to spend the first four semesters at college learning stuff covered in high school, then maybe college isn't for you..
Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:42 pm to philabuck
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An easier step would be to end the college remedial track.
If you have to spend the first four semesters at college learning stuff covered in high school, then maybe college isn't for you..
For real though, federally backed loans allow universities to basically raise tuition to whatever they want, because they know any and everyone will be approved for a loan to pay for school. And as long as that occurs tuition will continue to rise.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:37 pm to Azazello
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This is the wrong place to start. We need to cap undergraduate loans first and foremost, since that is the vast majority of borrowing and also where most of the problems occur.
We shouldnt start limiting the borrowing power of people going for advanced degrees who have a much higher probability of paying back their loans.
Indeed.
I find it (depressingly) hilarious that doctors and lawyers pay higher rates of interest than undergrads. Because professionals are the ones defaulting on our loans and not the Gen Ed majors, I guess.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 6:46 pm to Azazello
quote:How so?
This is going to be a disaster of epic proportions.
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:58 pm to LSURussian
Should start garnishing wages. I know plenty of folks that lived the high life and now don’t want to pay it back. I say frick em!
Posted on 5/16/18 at 9:31 pm to Azazello
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50 percent of student loan borrowers are over 34 when they start repaying their loans.
This is staggering... aside from maybe Doctors...
The normal graduate is deferring payment for 10 + years as that interest and the juice keeps growing and growing...
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