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re: Stocks on your watch list
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:06 pm to cgrand
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:06 pm to cgrand
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why would it ever go any higher than that?
Short term traders and dumb investors.
quote:
how could it ever go any higher?
Same reason as above. I expect a little separation in the price until it gets closer to merger.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:17 pm to cgrand
quote:Why? Their "protection" is they can liquidate their shares and take their money and go home.
i get that, but investors have a right to some protection in the meantime.
Since there's always a chance the merger is called off for some reason, the companies remain independent entities until the actual approvals are obtained.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:23 pm to LSURussian
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Their "protection" is they can liquidate their shares and take their money and go home.
i get it, i just dont like it.
theres a hard cap on LVGO share ceiling but no floor...
just trying to make a good decision here.
speaking of math, heres some.
between yesterday's and today's rat-killing, i'm down 25G's on paper. and yet, still only 1,700 down for the week, and i havent sold anything
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:43 pm to cgrand
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i get it, i just dont like it.
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speaking of math, heres some.
between yesterday's and today's rat-killing, i'm down 25G's on paper. and yet, still only 1,700 down for the week, and i havent sold anything
Posted on 8/6/20 at 5:49 pm to cgrand
I trimmed back my position in LVGO today. I like LVGO, TDOC, and LVGO+TDOC longterm, but I was so heavy in LVGO, especially after the recent run up from 90, that I didn’t want so much of my portfolio being stuck in that short term uncertainty—which could be horrific if litigation comes into play. Too many good companies out there right now.
I’ll probably regret it, but I still have a large position in both and can sleep easier tonight.
I’ll probably regret it, but I still have a large position in both and can sleep easier tonight.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 6:44 pm to TheChosenOne
I’ve been going back and forth between 3 options with my shares of LVGO (about 400 total)...
A.) Do nothing, let the merger happen and have all LVGO convert to TDOC on acquisition date. Also with the do-nothing and hold approach, have the possibility that this merger gets declined by shareholders and LVGO continues its parabolic ways (which a small part of me wants to see).
B.) Sell all LVGO now and convert to TDOC, and be done with it.
C.) Sell all LVGO, put it in SE, AAPL, AMZN, etc in the meantime, try and outpace ROI if it was in LVGO/TDOC, and sell/reinvest back into TDOC in December.
I’m leaning towards option C, mostly because I think I can get higher returns the next 4 months in other holdings, but that’s speculation on my part.
I’m a believer in the merger long-term, just sad to see LVGO’s astronomical run end.
A.) Do nothing, let the merger happen and have all LVGO convert to TDOC on acquisition date. Also with the do-nothing and hold approach, have the possibility that this merger gets declined by shareholders and LVGO continues its parabolic ways (which a small part of me wants to see).
B.) Sell all LVGO now and convert to TDOC, and be done with it.
C.) Sell all LVGO, put it in SE, AAPL, AMZN, etc in the meantime, try and outpace ROI if it was in LVGO/TDOC, and sell/reinvest back into TDOC in December.
I’m leaning towards option C, mostly because I think I can get higher returns the next 4 months in other holdings, but that’s speculation on my part.
I’m a believer in the merger long-term, just sad to see LVGO’s astronomical run end.
Posted on 8/6/20 at 7:47 pm to Crescent Connection
I’m leaning towards option C as well
really angry about this...
LVGO was my girl
really angry about this...
LVGO was my girl
Posted on 8/6/20 at 8:36 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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I hope the deal fails
I will load the frick up on LVGO if this happens
Posted on 8/7/20 at 7:02 am to Crescent Connection
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C.) Sell all LVGO, put it in SE, AAPL, AMZN, etc in the meantime, try and outpace ROI if it was in LVGO/TDOC, and sell/reinvest back into TDOC in December.
I could see the LVGO price going up another 10% between now and the merger, as TDOC price increase to the $250 range. Add in the $11 premium you get at the merger date and I think a case can be made you can make 15%-20% holding the stock for the next few months. I think it has bottomed but obviously that could be wrong.
Will that outpace the ROI of reallocating those funds? I am not sure.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 7:19 am to hiltacular
that’s based on a new position though at LVGO 135 right?
if you are in LVGO at lower (I’m in at 100 overall) I don’t think the math works
I have 290 at 50 and 350 and 138.
the problem is that the merger is based on number of shares not LVGO or TDOC share price. If I stay at 640 yes I get the 11/share plus 60% TDOC but what about my profits on the 50 dollar shares of LVGO?
At the merger the 138 dollar shares have the same value as the 50 dollar shares in terms of return.
I suck at math, am I understanding this wrong?
if you are in LVGO at lower (I’m in at 100 overall) I don’t think the math works
I have 290 at 50 and 350 and 138.
the problem is that the merger is based on number of shares not LVGO or TDOC share price. If I stay at 640 yes I get the 11/share plus 60% TDOC but what about my profits on the 50 dollar shares of LVGO?
At the merger the 138 dollar shares have the same value as the 50 dollar shares in terms of return.
I suck at math, am I understanding this wrong?
Posted on 8/7/20 at 7:27 am to cgrand
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At the merger the 138 dollar shares have the same value as the 50 dollar shares in terms of return.
Essentially, but not the best way to look at it.
Each of your LVGO shares is worth .59 x TDOC + 11.33.
The return on your $50 shares is far greater since you got them at $50. You would be getting the TDOC shares on your $50 shares for: TDOC = $50/.59 - 11.33
You'd be getting TDOC for $73.75
Posted on 8/7/20 at 7:43 am to cgrand
Your profit per share is much higher at the lower price. As TDOC price increases LVGO will as well - merge arb.
I personally expect TDOC price to go up so I think risk of holding LVGO right now versus using the money in other investments is worth it.
I personally expect TDOC price to go up so I think risk of holding LVGO right now versus using the money in other investments is worth it.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 7:45 am to reds on reds on reds
Ok that makes sense, thank you
Am I correct that this stock swap regarding the $50 shares relieves the short term gains tax on the current profits? This would not be a sell/buy transaction right?
And the cash is taxed as ordinary income?
Am I correct that this stock swap regarding the $50 shares relieves the short term gains tax on the current profits? This would not be a sell/buy transaction right?
And the cash is taxed as ordinary income?
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:52 am to hiltacular
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Added AYX at $125
watching it
i want in, but every morning buy i've made lately has been way too early. i'll get in today though i think
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:59 am to cgrand
Looks like a good swing play. Putting a limit order in at 123.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:06 am to cgrand
My software guy says their product is best in class, really only thing I have to go by. I read their ER and I don't see any red flags, certainly nothing that warrants dumping 35% in 2 days.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:51 am to hiltacular
its not SaaS though...i think AYX is seen a great tool when times are good, but not required. in other words, its customers dont depend on it to operate
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:52 am to cgrand
ROKU is having a day.
wish i could enjoy it
wish i could enjoy it
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