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Share your advice for a soon-to-be graduate

Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:54 am
Posted by Tigerdawg57
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:54 am
If you could go back to your 20s and change something, or if there’s one thing that you learned that really effected your financial situation please share with me. I’m seeking advice for future financial success.

I’m 22 y/o and graduating with a civil engineering degree from Louisiana Tech in May 2020. I’ve been interning with a company for the past 8 months and was 100% vested day 1. As a student working limited hours I’ve accumulated $2100 into my 401k with an personal 10% contribution (I plan to go 15% once full time with 1% Increase annually). Company matches $1 for $1 on the first 4 percent and $0.50 on the dollar for the following 1%. When I graduate and join full time I would expect to be making an income of around $60kish. I have been building a line of credit since I turned 18 and have a credit score of 770. I will also graduate with zero student loans and I will only have about $2000 left on my $250 monthly car note and have rainy day savings account of $5500 as of now that I continue to contribute to.

I just ask for any advice that you wish you knew or that you found success with in your younger days. Thank you to all and god bless!

Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:11 am to
quote:

I would expect to be making an income of around $60kish


When I was interviewing engineers for positions in the Beaumont - Houston area about 10 years ago, our starting out offers were about $90K. It depends on where you want to live, but southeast Texas engineering salaries are among the highest. Something you may want to consider.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Share your advice for a soon-to-be graduate
"Plastics...."
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
1421 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:44 am to
get ready for this coming week..

pretty big earnings slate of tap
Posted by jerryc436
Franklin
Member since Jan 2014
517 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:50 am to
You are off to a good start. Personally I would probably take near half of my 401K contributions and start an individual Roth IRA. It will increase your taxes now but have tax free growth if Congress does not change the rules. It will also allow you more control of where your money is invested.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:02 am to
You’re in a good spot financially....use some time and money to travel while,you’re young and unencumbered.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6453 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:05 am to
All I’ll tell you is to be willing to move. 60k is solid, especially for a single early 20s man with little debt in Louisiana. Chase a job somewhere else. Similar positions in Dallas, Houston, Birmingham, Phoenix etc. will all put you in a position well above 60k and give you some life experience. Go get em and don’t slow down until you're getting married and starting a family.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5143 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:16 am to
Live cheap
Put as much money as you can away
Don’t forget to enjoy yourself every now and again
Stay away from high maintenance women
And remember you can’t turn a hoe into a housewife
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 10:17 am
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 10:31 am to
Well, you are already thinking about saving which is better than most.

I would say if I could go back, being that is what you asked, I would have forgone serious relationships until I established my career.

I am not trying to get political or anything, but I think "trying to settle down and buy a home" set me back more than anything.

You are young. Now is the time to learn as much real world experience as you can and do the things you want. Now is the time you could afford to take risks (career wise).

Good luck to you!
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
2963 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 11:08 am to
Early on, learn everything you can about your field and get to be someone who knows a lot about a specialized area and is respected in your field/industry. Don’t be scared to go out on your own and start your own business, which can be both financially and personally rewarding.

Get advice from people/ mentors who are successful and tune out people who will bring you down because sometimes family, friends and colleagues are envious and want to see you fail to justify their own mediocrity.

You are not a hedge fund manager so don’t try to invest like one. Just put money away into solid long term investments like index funds and look for opportunities to invest, whether it be real estate or your own business.

Learn to enjoy the ride and keep a long view of life, prioritizing God, family and work.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13864 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:17 pm to
That is a nice starting salary for our field (transportation). My company starts our EIs at around $55-$58k. Make sure you bust your arse and get your license. I am assuming you have already taken and passed your F.E. Exam (it not, do this before graduation). Then, go ahead and take the P.E. exam within the next year or so (if you plan to stay in Louisiana).

You did yourself a hell of a favor getting an internship. That was more important than whatever GPA you will finish with. Great job on the debt and I think 15% contribution is an excellent start.

Most people will tell you not to tie yourself down and rent. But honestly, if you know where you want to be, buy a house, and rent out a couple of bedrooms to your friends while you are young and single. That was the best financial decision I made in my 20’s.

Finally, after you get your license in 4 years, look around. The best way to increase your salary will be to switch companies. Almost no one cares about loyalty, unfortunately. You’ll be able to get a 20-25% raise by changing companies.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 1:47 pm to
All spot on.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:11 pm to
Lots of good advice there. Hardly any of the 20’ish year old engineers in the company I work for want to buy a house. I bought a 30 year old inexpensive house a few years after I graduated. It was an opportunity to learn how to fix stuff and when I was ready to buy a nicer house, the equity and appreciation provided the 20 percent down payment for it.

I would bet you took the FE exam already, if not, I would take it soon. If you are not doing consulting work, a license may not be required. However, you may decide to take a job later in life that does require a license. Some states will allow you to take the PE exam without the FE, such as Texas. Other states require the FE regardless of experience or being licensed in other states. My wife is an advanced structural engineer, but started her career as a project manager. Later in life when she decided to take a consultant job, she took the PE and received a license in Texas. I would say she is an expert in her field, but she can’t get a Louisiana license unless she goes back and takes the FE. The FE of course includes all the stuff you learned in college and never use in the real world. She doesn’t want to have to teach herself engineering economics, thermo dynamics and differential equations again at this stage of her career. I took the FE before I graduated but have always done management jobs and never needed to get a PE.

Also agree with the comments on investments. Don’t worry too much about being a hedge fund manager. Choose a combination of funds that are relatively conservative. Diversification and leaving them alone is the key over time. Don’t invest more than 30 percent in your company’s stock, if they are listed. Lots of untouchable companies will go bankrupt over 30 years. (Ask anyone that was 100 percent invested in General Motors in 2008)

I would also add that a good rule of thumb at a minimum would be to invest 10%, donate to church or charity 10%, put 10% towards an emergency / slush fund that continues to build, and try to live on less than the 70 percent remaining. Avoid credit cards, no matter the discounts or points, as much as possible. Save up in advance for vacations and large purchases versus paying 18% interest on credit cards. Of course there will be exceptions to all the things I just listed, but the mindset and getting back on target is the most important thing.
Posted by Stateguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
887 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 2:33 pm to
Invest early (sounds like you do)
Don't pay people to manage your investments - learn to do it yourself, all low cost funds til then (may be all you ever want)
Don't buy a new car immediately (doesn't sound like you're planning to), consider used when you need another
Don't pay people to manage your investments
Cook your own food, Cut your own grass, etc
Don't pay people to manage your investments

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:24 pm to
As a fellow not so young CE Grad here are my thoughts:

1)Take and pass the FE. Do what you can to get design experience and get your PE. Even if you never use it, having that PE behind your name will bring you places.

2)Find an employer that wants to invest in you. Most good employers will fund an MBA or MsCE if you are doing consulting. Take advantage of it early.

3)Max out your 401k or company match.

4)Do an FSA.

5)Join ASCE and the younger members group to be around folks your age

6)Find your niche. For me it was structures, but thats not the case for everyone.

Good luck!
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4415 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:30 pm to
Hell, you should be the one giving advice.
Posted by AugustaTiger
Augusta, Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
743 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:51 pm to
The best financial decision you can make is to marry the right person the first time.

I was lucky and did this... my friends...not so much.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:59 pm to
what if you don't wanna get married dude. just seems like a bad deal ngl
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
856 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 6:35 pm to
Sounds like on right track.
1. I would strongly suggest building a 'War Chest" = to 3 then 6 month expenses-- outside of 401k.
2. Make a bucket list and travel once a year.
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 7:50 pm to
Set aside an emergency fund, then double it (if needed it goes faster than you think)
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