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Posted on 6/1/21 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/1/21 at 4:14 pm to
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Ok mr moneybags


I hope he meant 3ish times per week.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/1/21 at 4:22 pm to
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Rule Of Thumb For Mortgage


Step 1: Save/invest X amount per month
Step 2: Allocate remaining money to expenses as you see fit


Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14325 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 9:53 pm to
New build cost for most of the Southeast was $110-150 a square foot until this year. Developers will definitely sell you a home for $200 a square foot but you are overpaying. I looked at several homes around $75 a square foot before I purchased my current home in 2017 for $39 a square foot as a foreclosure. Even after major renovations and upgrades like $30,000 in landscaping I was all in at $109 a square foot for a greater than 3,000 square foot house in a great neighborhood in a city of 200,000 people. I acted as my own GC and pulled my own permits before subbing out work. I’m not gonna lie, that was a pain in the arse. But buying a good house for $100 a square foot can be done but you have to be patient and a smart buyer.
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 9:56 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:28 am to
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What is the purpose of the question?

He is writing a financial wellness book!
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:44 am to
My mortgage note is currently about 9% of my gross income. We bought it when we were making almost half of our household income. This level allows us to save liberally and never really question our everyday purchases.

It's pretty simple to me. Look at your monthly budget and see what note will allow you to continue saving and spending to the degrees you feel comfortable, and then don't spend more on a mortgage than that.

Common mistakes:

(1) People who expect a raise in income that never happens. "I make 80k now, I'll be making 120k in 2 years!" Gets laid off. *shocked pikachu*

(2) People who set their budget at the top they can afford, then "fall in love with" a house that costs 20-30k more. Will justify the extra cost with any number of reasons "everything on our list, good schools, best neighborhood, great resale, so much character, etc"

(3) People who think they'll be so happy in a nicer house that they'll spend less on clothes, electronics, cars, etc.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
130817 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:56 am to
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It's pretty simple to me. Look at your monthly budget
There is the answer
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:27 am to
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4) Household should spend a maximum of 28% of its gross monthly income on total housing expenses and no more than 36% on total debt service


Let’s say someone is curious about how much mortgage (not house) they might qualify for. Use #4 as a guideline, because that’s typically what a mortgage banker or broker will use to qualify them as a starting point. As for the house itself, things like cash on hand or downpayment ability and personal payment comfort level will affect that, along with mortgage amount.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
12633 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:45 am to
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find a house that meets your needs for no more than $150 a square foot and closer to $100 is better




Not everyone lives in BFE. I couldn't even get a house in NOLA East for that.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:48 am to
You can find that very easily in Lafayette.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:49 am to
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Let’s say someone is curious about how much mortgage (not house) they might qualify for. Use #4 as a guideline, because that’s typically what a mortgage banker or broker will use to qualify them as a starting point. As for the house itself, things like cash on hand or downpayment ability and personal payment comfort level will affect that, along with mortgage amount


Yup.

One thing that never gets mentioned with "how much can i buy" is payment shock.
28% gross income might be double what someone is currently paying in rent or smaller home. Just because someone else says you can afford it doesnt make it "easy" or "adviseable".
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14325 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:45 pm to
Just because idiots in New Orleans pay ridiculous prices for houses doesn’t mean normal people in the rest of the southeast do. As a bonus, I don’t live in a murder city run by an incompetent mayor either!
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4786 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 7:48 pm to
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Just because idiots in New Orleans pay ridiculous prices for houses


To each his own. Enjoy Ruby Tuesdays.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:02 pm to
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I don’t find it to be that unreasonable. I don’t make near $250k but I’d assume that if you pull that in per year you could come up with quite a down payment and be able to afford the monthly payment.

Depends on the market you're in also. A million dollar home in South Louisiana probably comes with a 4 figure monthly power bill also.
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2598 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:15 pm to
Depending where you live/ taxes... you would expect $2-4k in utilities, upkeep, HOA, insurance, property taxes even if you purchased it outright.
Posted by CajunCraftsman225
Member since Jun 2021
49 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:23 pm to
4x's doesn't sound great to me either. I was told 2.5 x Annual Salary many many years ago in basic ECON in high school.

To remain stress free and have a life, I would say:
1) 2.5 x annual income
2) Target mortgage monthly payment of 25% monthly income
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14325 posts
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:53 am to
Never ate at Ruby Tuesday’s again after they pulled their ads off Tucker Carlson. I did just eat at several high end restaurants in Key West. Key West is a lot like New Orleans…except it’s clean and no is getting killed. Also the mayor seems competent.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 8:55 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:59 am to
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This does not sound like a good one at all. I think it could apply to lower incomes, but someone making $250k has no business buying a million dollar home.


Putting 20% down, at 4.5% on 1M with property taxes and insurance where I live would be right around 5k/month.

At 250k year where I live with no state income tax, take home would be around 190k, which breaks down to roughly 16k/mo.

I really don’t see the issue with a 250k salary professional buying a 1M house. You’re still talking about 11k/month living expenses after mortgage. I’d prefer to be “house poor” in the nicest area possible right now given the sad state of our county.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 6:01 am
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