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re: Rate cut time!!!

Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:13 am to
Before the election, I said that I believed Donald wouldn’t cut spending and would drive inflation back up. Donaldists told me I was wrong on both counts and simply eaten up by DDS. Now spending hasn’t been cut, and due to a weakening job market, we might have to spike inflation again. fricking yay
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46843 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:15 am to
I wasn't calling you out specifically, but look at this thread and the responses from the typical people are all the same. "Cut the rates too late" "YEA! CUT THE RATES TOO LATE". it's funny seeing these people morph into the same type of people they hate.

Anyone with half a brain knew once the whole shite show with the tariffs happened, that the Fed was going to wait to cut rates. Just like anyone with half a brain knew Trump was shite talking Powell to take any and all blame off of himself and shift the convo towards Powell.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31876 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:22 am to
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I wasn't calling you out specifically, but look at this thread and the responses from the typical people are all the same. "Cut the rates too late" "YEA! CUT THE RATES TOO LATE". it's funny seeing these people morph into the same type of people they hate.

Same thing with calling him “Jerome”. It’s one of the most mindlessly NPC things I’ve ever seen
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4798 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:34 am to
quote:


I wasn't calling you out specifically, but look at this thread and the responses from the typical people are all the same. "Cut the rates too late" "YEA! CUT THE RATES TOO LATE". it's funny seeing these people morph into the same type of people they hate.

Anyone with half a brain knew once the whole shite show with the tariffs happened, that the Fed was going to wait to cut rates. Just like anyone with half a brain knew Trump was shite talking Powell to take any and all blame off of himself and shift the convo towards Powell.


If you look carefully, there is always a boogeyman preventing Trump from being successful. The first term it was the deep state, Fauci, etc.

Now it's Powell, not his stupid tariffs, that are preventing The Golden Age.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 10:35 am
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46843 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:36 am to
Yea, it's a terrible spot to be in right now. I don't know what'll happen with inflation. My personal opinion is that it'll be really sticky for a while but might even rise as I don't think we've seen the full effects of the tarrifs just yet, as usually things like that can take months and some times a couple of years to play out.

This has the potential to get ugly. The fiscal policy coming from the white house certainly isn't one that's conducive to lowering inflation. Let's hope some of the data we've seen the last couple of months ends up being outliers rather than a trend.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7946 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:42 am to
We are sitting here staring stagflation down the barrel; and everyone is calling "too late, so obvious, etc"

Doesn't seem so black and white to me, but I also don't take marching orders from my political gang, be it left or right.


Posted by topherbrown21
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
431 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:50 am to
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We are sitting here


Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
22060 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:53 am to
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46843 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:59 am to
Well said. I'm the same way and it's good to know there are still people out there like this.

You're right, it's definitely not black and white. This economy is one of the most complex things in the world.

I'm starting to wonder if we're heading into a scenario where we're going to be cutting rates while inflation starts rising again. I don't know, but I certainly don't envy the people who have to make these decisions.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19412 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:00 am to
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Donald wouldn’t cut spending


So how exactly does the President cut spending?
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4389 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:08 am to
It's funny you mention the 10am drop because I noticed the same. Every time I see the market jump up at the start I kind of roll my eyes...
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40472 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:15 am to
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This is due to the fact that *60%* of black women with degrees work for the govt.


Is there a link for this? IIRC when this was going around a few months ago it was really just a estimate that someone prompt engineered ChatGPT to spit out.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51347 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:36 am to
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There is absolutely zero justification at this point not to cut rates.


Waiting to cut rates until you have data is what you are supposed to do


Also Trump yelling at the sky that the jobs reports are FAKE NEWS and saying interest rates should be lowered is counterintuitive.

Bottom line is Trump wants low interest rates so the economy rips and damn the consequences. Ultra -low interest rates only benefit the rich. 50% of Americans have most of their savings in non-equity investments and instead in things like savings accounts.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14585 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:54 am to
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Randomw question...if/when rate cut is announced, how long before it actually is cut in the system?? And then how long does it take to see the lower rate in mortgages, credit cards, etc? And do banks rates start to go down just as quickly?


Immediately. The rates are what banks charge each other to lend amongst themselves overnight. Mortgage interest rates and savings interest rates will take more time to work though the system. Mortgage rates are based on 10-year treasury, so that is the real number many should be concerned with. Lowering the Fed Funds rate would be a good start.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31876 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:03 pm to
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So how exactly does the President cut spending?

Are we going to play these semantic games?

I love Schrodinger’s Trump: he controls everything and nothing, gets credit for everything and blame for nothing, simultaneously
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73370 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:10 pm to
Important to note that the bbb did cut spending.

The entirety of its price tag was because the CBO was including the TCJA extension as spending/cost.

Technically the outcome is the same, but I have philosophical qualms with categorizing extension of existing tax rates as spending
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14311 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Rate cut time!!!


Driving up inflation even more along with price hikes thanks to tariffs is certain to help the economy
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73370 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:15 pm to
In your view, how bad does the job market have to get for you to get on board with rate cuts?
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
2030 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:17 pm to
No rate cuts, wait and see. Jerome will probably raise rates due to inflation.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133857 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

In your view, how bad does the job market have to get
Do you believe 4.3% unemployment is a bad job market??
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