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re: Open source AI DeepSeek is about to crash the AI bubble

Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2581 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:08 pm to
DeepSeek does not have any information after October 2023. Grok is up to date with current events. I wonder how much that affects things.
Posted by minister of truth
Somewhere new for 6-12 months
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:13 pm to
I thought that was 1 of the advantages of AI - that it updated itself?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31803 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:44 pm to
You can’t trust just about anything on that Chinese report. It was likely trained illegally on stolen data. It was likely developed with stolen American IP. The performance may be faked in some way. And the total cost is definitely fake
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3907 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:55 pm to
It's on GitHub, you can check their work.


Well, you is a euphemism because you likely have no clue wtf any of it means.
Posted by theballguy
Between DC and Colorado
Member since Oct 2011
18633 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:23 pm to
I certainly am. It’s selling at a great price. Still a great company. Financials are solid. Why would anyone not take advantage?
Posted by theballguy
Between DC and Colorado
Member since Oct 2011
18633 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:26 pm to
Quite a bit.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28394 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:51 pm to
On Mao:



On Tiananmen Square:



On Taiwan:

Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21187 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:56 pm to
Holy shite. How long before this goes viral? Great thinking
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9512 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

You can’t trust just about anything on that Chinese report. It was likely trained illegally on stolen data. It was likely developed with stolen American IP. The performance may be faked in some way. And the total cost is definitely fake



All most likely true.

But crazy how the market can react to a press release.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28394 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:04 pm to
I can't take credit for it.

Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2410 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:56 pm to
I have always heard about the "bias" of AI but this is a great example...
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36916 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:34 pm to
The thing is, if it's true that advances from here can be made at a fraction of the cost, then that is going to be HUGE for the American companies.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38490 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 12:15 am to
Yea I truly think this (if it's even "real") will be a boon to the AI space, not a bubble popping.

This, again, if "real" will just open up AI models to smaller players (increased demand) while the big boys will happily accept the efficiency gains while contniuing to throw more and more compute power at it.


The mega companies aren't thinking "Oh damn now we don't need all this hardware we planned on ordering" They are thinking "Oh damn the hardware we planned on ordering is going to be even more impactful due to a big efficiency gain"


The bubble popping comes when companies actually take the big leap and start shedding humans in favor of AI only for the AI to be inferior enough that the company blows up or something. Like a super high profile financial scandal wherein an AI fricki up causes a big boy to go under in rapid, catastrophic fashion. That's the black swan event.
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3166 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:11 am to
Apparently they released an image generator? How does it compare to others?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
51972 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:14 am to
I expect nothing less

Honestly our own tech companies do the same thing but with different topics
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21187 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Apparently they released an image generator? How does it compare to others?

I wonder if NBIS is involved. I know that NBIS hosts DeepSeek in its AI Studio.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451123 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:24 am to
quote:

The mega companies aren't thinking "Oh damn now we don't need all this hardware we planned on ordering" They are thinking "Oh damn the hardware we planned on ordering is going to be even more impactful due to a big efficiency gain"


Correct.

IF this tech is legit, it's great for American AI and the big boys still have the money to create the largest infrastructure
Posted by StonewallJack
Member since Apr 2008
848 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:42 am to
AI is the future!

Accept your new robot overlords
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