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re: Oil stocks...are you buying?

Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:32 am to
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1724 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:32 am to
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Do the Saudi's know what they're doing?


I would say there hasn't been a more ambiguous period in the modern history of KSA. With the transition of power to King Salman the KSA has:

* Reduced relations with Iran.
* Fight a war in Yemen
* Restructured Aramco and the KSA Ministry of Oil (Huge)
* Removed key gov't figures and replaced them with Salman's appointees.



Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134871 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:15 am to
The Street.com lists the 3 oil majors biggest risk to cut their dividends:

1/19/2016
quote:

Some of these big names have attractive dividends which might look like a safe shelter in these turbulent times. After all, it's increasingly hard for investors to find decent, reliable income vehicles. However, with crude showing no signs of arresting its fall, investing in these big oil names might be a trap.

Let's see which of these names face the biggest risks of getting their dividends cut.

1) BP

2) Conoco Phillips

3) Chevron
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110909 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:19 am to
Do you think there's a reason XOM is not on that list?
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:23 am to
Are we talking cutting dividends out completely or just cutting back some? If BP just cuts it back some I'm ok with it.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91071 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:53 am to
quote:

the saudis have no f'ing idea what they are doing is my view.






THEY KNOW exactly what they are doing.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134871 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:56 am to
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Do you think there's a reason XOM is not on that list?
XOM has always had conservative dividend payouts. Even with their almost $30/share pull back in price their dividend yield is still only 4%.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91071 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 11:58 am to
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windshieldman



you buy more shares at depressed prices. so what if dividends are temporarily cut to help company? You load up now and you make a killing later in capital appreciation PLUS all your new shares you will get dividends on after it is restored if you choose to hold.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

you buy more shares at depressed prices. so what if dividends are temporarily cut to help company? You load up now and you make a killing later in capital appreciation PLUS all your new shares you will get dividends on after it is restored if you choose to hold.


Oh I agree, I clicked on link but it didn't take to article so I was just curious what else it said. I won't be selling for another 15-20 years.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40227 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:05 pm to
Glad they're not ... while I know I SHOULD reinvest every $$$ of those dividends it's my "mad money" that I spend on what I want and have no guilt about.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91071 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Oh I agree, I clicked on link but it didn't take to article so I was just curious what else it said. I won't be selling for another 15-20 years.



I'm not so sure I'm holding long term anymore. It depends. I think i will go all in on capital appreciation and then set my stop-losses once we get to a level of profit i can accept. If i get stopped out so be it. If not I will keep holding.
Posted by LSUneaux
Metairie and MAGA AF
Member since Mar 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:22 pm to
Rebound happening now.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:23 pm to
Down 380. I'll hold off
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82209 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Do you think there's a reason XOM is not on that list?

Because their payout ratio isn't really close to being 100% like all the others on that list (most will need to borrow to pay the dividend)
Posted by LSUneaux
Metairie and MAGA AF
Member since Mar 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 9:22 am to
Inventory update in the next hour. Oil could plunge again very soon!
Posted by LSUneaux
Metairie and MAGA AF
Member since Mar 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 10:09 am to
Anyone bought KMI yesterday?
Posted by Elusiveporpi
Below I-10
Member since Feb 2011
2753 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 10:11 am to
Ok, so I'm a 100% novice in the stock market. im looking to invest ~10000 in oil and gas. this is what i have come up with, please advise. Its expendable money, but i would like it to be a semi educated investment.
Long term (8-10yrs, maybe more) (ADR) ($5000)
shorter term (MRO) ($4,000) (3-4yrs)
and just a shot in the dark (EXXI) (1,000)

I honesty dont even know if there is a min $ amount you have to spend to get into this game, and i will talk to an adviser, but what yall think?

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82209 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 10:12 am to
Avoid the shot in the dark and make XoM your long term
Posted by LSUneaux
Metairie and MAGA AF
Member since Mar 2014
4960 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 10:21 am to
Yeah XOM should be your "buy and forget" company.
Posted by LSUEEAlum
Member since Oct 2013
832 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 10:42 am to
I did the same on Tuesday. Just get the robinhood app. I bought 600 shares of mro when it was $7.20 and I bought 150 shares of COP. Just gonna set it there and forget about it.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 10:44 am to
VDE - Vanguard Energy Fund. It's an energy ETF and that mimics their energy index fund (without the index fund's $100,000 minimum investment and the ETF has a lower expense ratio).

You get an index weighted exposure to all the big boys without having to worry about individual company research. Let the pros manage the fund to follow the industry index because you're not an analyst and splitting hairs among Exxon, Conoco, BP and Phillips 66 is a waste of time if it's not your full time job.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 10:47 am
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