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re: Mortgage rates with a 780ish credit score?

Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25188 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:31 pm to
Your 2.2% rate is irrelevant to OP asking current rates…which are pushing 6-7%.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30963 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:37 pm to
okay.

Pay attention to the market instead of this guy bullying people.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32880 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 9:43 am to
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with the cost of insurance


My total mortgage payment has gone up nearly 24% in the last few years due to insurance increases. Fortunately, I didn't over extend myself with this house, but I don't know how the average person/family is keeping their heads above water.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7186 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 12:52 pm to
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I don't know how the average person/family is keeping their heads above water.


We're looking to move to a more family friendly place in early 24 and I'm struggling to understand how we make it work. With us being a single income household, property taxes in TX, insurance, interest rates, and these astronomical prices I live in a world of anxiety.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37521 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 12:57 pm to
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mortgage payment has gone up nearly 24% in the last few years due to insurance increases.


Property taxes, HOA fees/assessments, and insurance costs are the unpredicted variables that seem to hit hardest.

Having lived under what I considered a poorly run HOA I'm not sure if I would buy another property with that bureaucratic power over my home
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32880 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 2:26 pm to
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We're looking to move to a more family friendly place in early 24 and I'm struggling to understand how we make it work. With us being a single income household, property taxes in TX, insurance, interest rates, and these astronomical prices I live in a world of anxiety.


It's bad out there, and it's been bad for years, interest rates notwithstanding. I know people keep saying "well buy a smaller house!", but the problem is that no one has been building "smaller houses" for two decades, and even the older ones either still cost a fortune because they are in an in demand area of the city or they are rentals. My wife and I both make good money, and even with no kids, we look around and think "damn, houses are fricking expensive". Again, I don't know how "average" people do it. I guess the answer is usually that they don't.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39153 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 2:53 pm to
My wife and I are hoping to get our first house here soon (both teachers)but I’m holding out until rates show some sign of coming back down. Her mom was trying to tell me today how “much better the markets looking” and I was like fricking how? Shits still high as giraffe pussy with interest rates still inching up. I’m not touching 6.5+% on a 220k+ house (average going rate here currently) if I can help it.

ETA: Just realized I worded this wrong. Its prices i want back down more than rates (although if both happen I wont complain)
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 11:14 am
Posted by Bermuda99
Member since Jun 2021
110 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 4:28 pm to
If rates drop below 5% it’s going to be a feeding frenzy again. Pick your poison.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 10:44 pm to
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wife and I are hoping to get our first house here soon (both teachers)but I’m holding out until rates show some sign of coming back down. Her mom was trying to tell me today how “much better the markets looking” and I was like fricking how? Shits still high as giraffe pussy with interest rates still inching up. I’m not touching 6.5+% on a 220k+ house (average going rate here currently) if I can help it.


I am going ahead with it currently in exactly the situation you describe. I figure i can refinance if rates drop and I'll have the house I want and not be in a bidding war as the frenzy kicks in.

I'd you can afford it and find the right place it could potentially be a decent time to buy still
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36215 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 5:59 am to
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I’m not touching 6.5+% on a 220k+ house (average going rate here currently) if I can help it.


That was pretty much the rate a decade again. Not very likely you see 3% in a very very very very very long time if ever. It’s more likely to go up than down.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8350 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:12 am to
I have a 705 credit score. Last month we locked in 5.75% on a VA loan through Origin Bank.

The best we could get offered through Veterans United was 7.25%

We got extremely lucky.
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 11:16 am
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39153 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:45 am to
It's not the rate im hoping climbs back down as much as the absurd asking price im seeing for some of the homes here.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:14 am to
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It's not the rate im hoping climbs back down as much as the absurd asking price im seeing for some of the homes here.



I don't see home prices moving down a ton in the near term. Not enough inventory and material costs are still high.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173651 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:06 am to
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Historically you could acquire a home for 2-2.5x household income. That multiple is substantially higher right now.

I don't know how people are paying these rates at these prices

Prices will move down
Posted by TigerBlood62
Shreveport
Member since Nov 2016
227 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:10 am to
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It's brutal but Im saving some money over rent still which is nice.

But let's just say I'm looking forward to refinancing one day whenever rates drop down.


quote:

oklahogjr

You get what you vote for
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7186 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:22 am to
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I don't see home prices moving down a ton in the near term.


I've got to disagree. In my area inventory is currently at the same level of 2019 due to a 300% increase in the last 3 months.

Prices will move as people start to hurt. I've got my finger on the trigger for a last week of December close with a starving builder to get an home off the books before the end of a painful 2023.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173651 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:38 am to
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I don't see home prices moving down a ton in the near term. Not enough inventory and material costs are still high.

You need capable buyers to keep home prices at current levels

Some markets will definitely see a correction
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29336 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:25 am to
But the still inflated house prices to go along with the 7% rate is not the norm.

Place a graph with home price next to yours and you will see this current environment is not the norm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41051 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:00 pm to
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It's not the rate im hoping climbs back down as much as the absurd asking price im seeing for some of the homes here.



This. I've just about given up looking. Starter homes are going for $400k+ and it is just ridiculous.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39153 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:10 pm to
Saw a home that “needed work” (was a fricking understatement place was wrecked) going for 230,000 the other day. 3 bed 2 bath built in the 80’s. Don’t remember the square footage but it wasn’t anything spectacular. Place needed probably 20k minimum worth of work just to be liveable. Shits unreal.
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