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re: Married Men; How Do You Manage Shared Expenses With Your Wife? (Newly Married)
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:36 am to Kaybaby82
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:36 am to Kaybaby82
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No, that’s starting off with a fractured marriage, sorry it’s for everyone.
You're right man, your view of marriage is right and anyone who handles things dofferently is just a selfish a-hole.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 9:37 am
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
I feel like the right mix is some combination of shared and personal.
Most of the marriages I’ve seen where couples argue over money are the ones where all income is shared. (i.e. one feels like they can’t buy things because the other doesn’t want them to, or they do buy them and the other is upset because they thought it was a waste of money). My fiancé and I live together and put all of our bills, groceries, some restaurants, etc. on a shared credit card that we both pay half on at the end of each month. Everything else is separate, however I contribute more to rent because I make more.
We get married in a month, and I’m not sure if it will stay this way, but it’s worked well so far.
Most of the marriages I’ve seen where couples argue over money are the ones where all income is shared. (i.e. one feels like they can’t buy things because the other doesn’t want them to, or they do buy them and the other is upset because they thought it was a waste of money). My fiancé and I live together and put all of our bills, groceries, some restaurants, etc. on a shared credit card that we both pay half on at the end of each month. Everything else is separate, however I contribute more to rent because I make more.
We get married in a month, and I’m not sure if it will stay this way, but it’s worked well so far.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:44 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Marriage - a combination or mixture of two or more elements.
Money - one of the top three priorities of married life
Money not mixed or combined - dumb.
Money - one of the top three priorities of married life
Money not mixed or combined - dumb.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:47 am to Kaybaby82
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much easier to walk away
I don’t believe this is inherently bad. In my experience, the actual recipe for divorce is that one or both gets comfortable, stops trying (lets themselves go physically, stops “courting” type behaviors, etc) and they grow apart. As long as we both know that the other is staying because they want to stay, not because they have to, the more likely we continue making the effort.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:50 am to Ingloriousbastard
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I feel like the right mix is some combination of shared and personal.
yeah. obviously everyone should contribute to the bills/debts of the marriage (assuming both work, which i think this thread does assume). then out of whatever is left, each person has to keep a chunk for their own desires
the issue is where the sweet spot is on independence, especially when there is an imbalance of salary
however, even in this sort of system, you can have major issues on household spending (houses, cars, etc that are too expensive)
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My fiancé and I live together and put all of our bills, groceries, some restaurants, etc. on a shared credit card that we both pay half on at the end of each month.
i like this idea. i spend WAY more on household food than my gf b/c my job is more flexible and i insist on cooking almost every day
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:51 am to Joshjrn
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I don’t believe this is inherently bad
i will bet 100 SFP dollars that the poster you're responding to is very religious and sees it as very bad
i'll bet 10 SFP dollars he's a big Dave Ramsey guy, too
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the actual recipe for divorce is that one or both gets comfortable, stops trying (lets themselves go physically, stops “courting” type behaviors, etc) and they grow apart.
very common, esp with kids
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:03 am to Dragoon
My wife and I decided early in our marriage that the best way to avoid financial arguments was to keep separate checking accounts.
So her money is her money and my money is her money.
Never been a problem since....
So her money is her money and my money is her money.
Never been a problem since....
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:22 am to Dragoon
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We each brought our separate AMEX accounts to the marriage; we each have a Platinum account and a Skymiles platinum account. If we can absolutely use AMEX, we charge it to the account (she prefers the Platinum account and I prefer Skymiles since I fly more often). We then pay the accounts off from checking at the end of the month. We never carry a balance on these accounts and have no other active credit cards.
You are wasting some serious bucks on annual fees by not consolidating these cards.
You want to keep the lines if credit even if you won’t use it as it helps your credit score on multiple dimensions. I recommend moving to a single “premium” card like the Platinum and then moving the other three to $0 annual fee cards. Make sure that both are authorized users on all cards, especially the premium card.
You are likely spending $1500 on CC annual fees right now which is ludicrous.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 10:26 am
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:25 am to Dragoon
We have separate accounts because we are always rotating credit card sign up bonuses.
We have certain expenses each pays and a joint savings account separate from our main bank that money is automatically deposited into. We also have our retirement savings automatically deducted. The rest is spending money. We always discuss large purchases over $400-500. Neither one of us are very frivolous either, so it works for us.
We have certain expenses each pays and a joint savings account separate from our main bank that money is automatically deposited into. We also have our retirement savings automatically deducted. The rest is spending money. We always discuss large purchases over $400-500. Neither one of us are very frivolous either, so it works for us.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:29 am to Dragoon
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How do you do it?
Girlfriend and I will have shared everything whenever we get married. I’ll manage the finances but we will have complete transparency on every dollar in and out. There may be some inheritance that remains separate but otherwise it is all getting commingled.
I’m “tighter” financially than her so it will take more adjustment on my side. Nonetheless, we have always been very open about finances and it isn’t a taboo subject in our relationship.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:06 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Starting off saying this is mine and this is yours is a recipe for a divorce and much easier to walk away.
For you, but not for everyone.
Perhaps.
Personally, I can’t imagine having to expend the time and energy worrying about whose is whose.
It’s whose
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 11:14 am
Posted on 7/20/19 at 1:10 pm to Dragoon
Not a man, but have the same spouse after umpteen years, as many of that unmarried as married....can remember when we were broke LSU students & barely had $10 between us to pay the Mr. Gatti’s delivery guy.. Lots of years, a couple businesses, some inheritances later, and we still have the following banking structure:
—separate personal checking for each of us
—separate personal savings for each of us
—joint “household” checking and savings accounts (for big stuff like new roof, flood insurance, etc)
—various business & trust accounts, separate retirement accounts (though we are beneficiary of each other’s accounts, obvi)
There is no one recipe or formula. No, you don’t need one single account or pile of money in order to be happily married. You two need to discuss your expectations and goals, and then craft a structure that works for you. In my household, that means quite a bit of financial autonomy on discretionary income after we’ve each made our designated contributions to house, retirement, etc accounts.
My self employed husband does not need to discuss whether he needs a new officer printer or desk with me, nor do I need to have him vote on whether my professional association memberships are “okay” expenses. That’s the sort of day to day BS we, as grownup professionals, can be trusted to manage.
Talk to her about her parents/family money management issues—did they fight aboiut money? Did yours? What do you want to do differently? What seems fair and equitable to each of you? Talk, talk, talk about this. Make a monthly budget that clearly outlines how much you will each contribute to savings, household expenses, retirement, etc.
—separate personal checking for each of us
—separate personal savings for each of us
—joint “household” checking and savings accounts (for big stuff like new roof, flood insurance, etc)
—various business & trust accounts, separate retirement accounts (though we are beneficiary of each other’s accounts, obvi)
There is no one recipe or formula. No, you don’t need one single account or pile of money in order to be happily married. You two need to discuss your expectations and goals, and then craft a structure that works for you. In my household, that means quite a bit of financial autonomy on discretionary income after we’ve each made our designated contributions to house, retirement, etc accounts.
My self employed husband does not need to discuss whether he needs a new officer printer or desk with me, nor do I need to have him vote on whether my professional association memberships are “okay” expenses. That’s the sort of day to day BS we, as grownup professionals, can be trusted to manage.
Talk to her about her parents/family money management issues—did they fight aboiut money? Did yours? What do you want to do differently? What seems fair and equitable to each of you? Talk, talk, talk about this. Make a monthly budget that clearly outlines how much you will each contribute to savings, household expenses, retirement, etc.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 2:14 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Yeah, no sense in getting married if your keeping score, also it doesn’t show 100% commitment
Union- the action or fact of joining or being joined, especially in a political context.
That’s including bank accounts. What most people are describing are roommates. The marriage will end the same way it began, separated.
Union- the action or fact of joining or being joined, especially in a political context.
That’s including bank accounts. What most people are describing are roommates. The marriage will end the same way it began, separated.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/20/19 at 2:35 pm to Kaybaby82
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Union- the action or fact of joining or being joined, especially in a political context.
That’s including bank accounts. What most people are describing are roommates. The marriage will end the same way it began, separated.
how many religious retreats have you been on to work on your marriage?
how many dave ramsey books do you own?
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:36 pm to Dragoon
So all the money goes into shares accounts, and all the bills are paid from shared accounts? I don’t see the issue. Keep your cards, it’s good for your credit. There’s no real reason to consolidate that. Just allow her to see your account and you see hers if y’all feel you need to do that, and then you’re good
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i will bet 100 SFP dollars that the poster you're responding to is very religious and sees it as very bad i'll bet 10 SFP dollars he's a big Dave Ramsey guy, too
Did you read his post history or are you making sweeping generalizations about Dave Ramsey people? I’m not a Dave disciple, but I think he does a lot more good than bad, and I think his bad rap on this board is completely undeserved
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:46 pm to hungryone
How do you guys/gals with separate accounts make sure money isn’t being blown on stupid crap? Or are the separate account people the type that go out and buy a boat after the wife goes on a shopping spree? How do you make sure you’re both saving for retirement? I’ve heard of some relationships where the money is separated and one decides to not give a shite about retirement, and the money is separate so they aren’t forced to. Other one either has to overcompensate or think about divorce
Posted on 7/20/19 at 3:51 pm to Upperdecker
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How do you guys/gals with separate accounts make sure money isn’t being blown on stupid crap?
That's what the separate account is for if they do choose.
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How do you make sure you’re both saving for retirement?
That goes in before money goes into the separate account.
Of course they could lie and be doing stuff behind your back, but that's a whole different can of worms that isn't being discussed in this thread.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 4:21 pm to Upperdecker
Again, retirement and savings are automatically deducted and directed to those accounts each month on a fixed rate. We transfer predetermined amounts into household checking/savings. What remains in personal checking is certainly not enough to buy a boat LOL.
I brown bag my lunches cause Id rather buy books; he’d rather go out to lunch but compensates by not sending his shirts out for dry cleaning and ironing like his mama taught him. We both hate to clean, so we budget for housekeeping. But we spend none of our free time micromanaging what the other person buys with their spare cash.
If someone is out spending money he/she doesn’t have, that issue isn’t gonna be fixed by joint accounts. And if one partner responds to a shopping spree by buying something equally expensive for him/herself, you’re looking at maturity and self control issues, not money issues.
Look, I know it’s hard for some old fashioned authoritarian traditionalists to comprehend, but there are several generations of professional women out there who make just as much or more than their spouses. For every spendthrift wife this board cites, you can find just as many gambling/dumb buying addicted husbands, or spoiled eternal adolescents who think nothing of spending many thousands on a hunting lease, off road vehicle, truck that can tow, etc while begrudging a wife’s minor petty cash purchases.
Being male does not give you magical powers of money management. A solid plan for most of the dollars coming into your household means you can be pretty flexible with the small amount remaining.
I brown bag my lunches cause Id rather buy books; he’d rather go out to lunch but compensates by not sending his shirts out for dry cleaning and ironing like his mama taught him. We both hate to clean, so we budget for housekeeping. But we spend none of our free time micromanaging what the other person buys with their spare cash.
If someone is out spending money he/she doesn’t have, that issue isn’t gonna be fixed by joint accounts. And if one partner responds to a shopping spree by buying something equally expensive for him/herself, you’re looking at maturity and self control issues, not money issues.
Look, I know it’s hard for some old fashioned authoritarian traditionalists to comprehend, but there are several generations of professional women out there who make just as much or more than their spouses. For every spendthrift wife this board cites, you can find just as many gambling/dumb buying addicted husbands, or spoiled eternal adolescents who think nothing of spending many thousands on a hunting lease, off road vehicle, truck that can tow, etc while begrudging a wife’s minor petty cash purchases.
Being male does not give you magical powers of money management. A solid plan for most of the dollars coming into your household means you can be pretty flexible with the small amount remaining.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 4:42 pm to Dragoon
I watch our spending to make sure it’s reasonable. We share all of our accounts. We don’t discuss every little thing we buy for ourselves unless it’s a big purchase.
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