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Just increased my 401k percentage

Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:30 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
52235 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 10:30 pm
Went from 15% to 18% with a 3% company match. Figured I’d take advantage of all this retirement on clearance right now and for the next 5 years. I think everyone under age 50 should consider doing the same thing right now. I’m not a trader, I’m a wealth builder (saw that here recently and thought it was a brilliant way to explain attitude going into this recession). Therefore, I want to accumulate as many shares as I can while still maintaining my current lifestyle. If the market really starts to skid into March 2020 levels, I may up it to 50% for a few months. It would be enough to feel it significantly for those few months but I think we could make that work.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 10:34 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36651 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

If the market really starts to skid into March 2020 levels, I may up it to 50% for a few


How are you going to put half your income into your 401k and stay under the annual limit?
Posted by IntenseKid
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
3456 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:01 am to
Baw makes about 50k I’d guess. Isn’t the annual limit like 25-26k?
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 12:02 am
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4606 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 12:09 am to
Good move
Target 20% and leave it there
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7314 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:34 am to
20.5k for 2022.
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
9102 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:27 am to
Front loads the contributions. System should be smart enough to recognize when he’s capped.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
34020 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:49 am to
Good move baw. Let those stacks accumulate over time. Just make sure your funds are in good places now
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
27438 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:08 am to
I bumped to 20% in march 2020 and it worked out very well for me.

I did the same again about 10 days ago. It missed last fridays pay cycle, but i have a good bonus check in 2 fridays. So the timing should still be solid for the year.

For what it is worth, my employer has a safe harbor for when i go over the 401k cap. I dont dare stop the 401k contribution because i would lose the 4% match. Im commission based anyway, so it is near impossible to hit the cap on the money with a percentage contribution.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
93718 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:43 am to
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
93718 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Baw makes about 50k I’d guess.





you can put a shite ton into a solo401k which is the best 401k plan if you work for yourself.

employee contribution
owner profit sharing
possible catch up contribution depending on age
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2825 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:46 am to
Very smart move.

Just make sure you’re maxing out the 401K dollars every year. Wife and I have both done this every year for the last 22 years, and our results have been great.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1760 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:49 am to
Still too many bulls in this market.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11998 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:57 am to
Signs we’re nowhere close to a bottom
Posted by mohalk
Member since Feb 2009
387 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:01 am to
What are the rules for 401k employer contribution for yourself the business owner vs employees?

Can you max the employer contribution for the business owner while keeping them typical for all other employees?
Posted by BadatBourre
Member since Jan 2019
1408 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:19 am to
Every time I read one of these posts, I remember how poor I am. How in the hell are you investing 18% funds with the current inflation? Is your house paid off? Are you making well above 100k a year? Together the wife and I are at $115k , and granted we bought a house, all of the furniture and 2 cars only a few months apart, with this current inflation and possible recession, no way I could invest anymore than I currently do.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
93718 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:41 am to
quote:

What are the rules for 401k employer contribution for yourself the business owner vs employees?



you are the BUSINESS OWNER and an EMPLOYEE in a solo401k.

if you have a corporation you can put 25% of your gross salary as owner profit sharing. 20% if you are a SP or single member LLC.

LINK
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
72677 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Every time I read one of these posts, I remember how poor I am. How in the hell are you investing 18% funds with the current inflation? Is your house paid off? Are you making well above 100k a year? Together the wife and I are at $115k , and granted we bought a house, all of the furniture and 2 cars only a few months apart, with this current inflation and possible recession, no way I could invest anymore than I currently do.



What a lot of people do wrong is try and go from zero to hero or little to a lot in investing when they "figure things out" financially with investing which generally can be tough to do for reasons you state. To go from investing 0% or maybe a few % of your income to say 15-20% really quickly is really difficult if you have the current lifestyle you have. The best time to do something like that is first career job out of school where you werent earning an income or much income previously and now you are. If you start out high, you learn to live with what you have leftover.

The problem is majority of people arent coming out into a career job in their 20s and immediately throwing a ton into retirement. But after working for some years, or maybe into your 30s at some point you realize the value of investing and want to start increasing your contribution. If you're at say 3-5% or something to get a match in 401k and want to start increasing that, dont feel like you have to go to 15-20% overnight. That would be tough for just about anyone to do considering what you learn to live on.

The way my wife and I have done this for years now is any time we get a raise, whether it's substantial or more inflation based, we increase our 401k contribution each time. For example, if we were at 7% then get a 3% inflation raise, we put out contribution to 8%, so we still feel the inflation raise, but also increase our 401k slightly. If we get a bigger raise/promotion type deal where say we get a 10-20% type pay increase, maybe then we decide we want to up our 401k by like 5%, so if it's at 8%, take it to 13%. You'd be surprised how much this helps over time. No this doesnt take you from zero to hero in a matter of a year or two investing, but over a decade or so you'd be surprised how much increasing it will help and you dont even really notice any impact to your day to day living.

I think it's also important to note I prefer a balance to investing over YOLOing it all in a 401k to max out. IF you have $20k of income the last thing I'd do is stick it all into a 401k. I'd get the match in the 401k, max out a ROTH IRA (backdoor or regular method), and also put a healthy portion into a brokerage account, then take the 401k up from the match from there. So my wife and I's 401k's we arent really close to maxing out, but we are both maxing out ROTH IRAs and have a healthy amount of money going into a brokerage account every month. Meanwhile when our pay increases, we just put some of that new money into bigger (%) 401k contributions.
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2977 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:45 am to
I shifted Jan 1 and I was done by End of April. I don't receive matching; my company simply gives us 3% regardless of our input so maxing out early didn't matter.

My 401k is with TransAmerica. I shifted my balance in Jan to Transamerica stable core (bonds) and my contributions continue to go to VIGAX (Vangard Growth) which mirrors the Russell 1000. Currently purchasing at a 25% discount.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
93718 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Is your house paid off?


mine has been for 10 years.

quote:

Are you making well above 100k a year?


most here make well over that.

quote:

Together the wife and I are at $115k


most combos are making well over 200k.

quote:

no way I could invest anymore than I currently do.




i have invested well over 50% of my income for a long time.
DO you not have any other sources of income? rentals? taxable dividends? lending? trade futures? options? you may want to start looking to make money in other ways.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22497 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:20 am to
This is sound advice, but I would add that in this scenario...
quote:

If we get a bigger raise/promotion type deal where say we get a 10-20% type pay increase, maybe then we decide we want to up our 401k by like 5%, so if it's at 8%, take it to 13%

It would be a great time to consider switching from traditional 401k to Roth 401k if your company has that as an option
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