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Is there such a thing as a 40 or 50 year mortgage??

Posted on 8/18/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted by BigApple
Member since Jun 2022
889 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 6:05 pm
Would really like to buy a house that is way out of my price range. TIA
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
17430 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 6:21 pm to
Yes, but not offered by all lenders. Think it’s more of a loan modification but there may be someone out there that does them from the start with a higher rate.

shite I’m looking at buying a new home and I’m 43 so 30 years puts me at 73 if I don’t pay it off early. I guess you could enjoy it on a 40 year then downsize later if it’s not paid for.

Heck I’ve been looking since December and everything I like is outside my price range so I’m going to have to lower my wants or pay out the arse.
This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
82817 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 6:41 pm to
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Would really like to buy a house that is way out of my price range. TIA


Why? Live within your means.

That’s about as dumb as the people buying new trucks on 84 month loans.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
37005 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 7:06 pm to
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Why? Live within your means.

That’s about as dumb as the people buying new trucks on 84 month loans.
I wouldn't compare a mortgage to an auto loan. Especially when rates were crushingly low 2 years ago, I would have loved to get a 50 year mortgage. Negative real rate financing where you can't get margin called with no prepayment penalties that is tax deductible? It's basically an asset and not a liability.

As long as the payment was affordable, it's the best of all worlds.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
17430 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 7:08 pm to
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Would really like to buy a house that is way out of my price range. TIA


Come on now spill the beans. What’s your current situation with housing and why are you wanting this certain house that’s out of your budget?

I moved for work and sold my house that I had custom built so I’m not really wanting to go backwards. Problem is everything I like doubles my old mortgage from $2590 to $5,200 to $6,000 a month.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92580 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 7:23 pm to
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Would really like to buy a house that is way out of my price range. TIA


Don't. Buy a house within your price range.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
55593 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 8:16 pm to
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I wouldn't compare a mortgage to an auto loan.


The comparison is apt if you're looking at it as consumers stretching out payments for as far as they can in order to afford as expensive an item (whether house or vehicle) as possible.

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Especially when rates were crushingly low 2 years ago, I would have loved to get a 50 year mortgage.


You would likely not be using such a long term in order to buy something you can barely afford even at that length, but rather you would likely use the lower notes to pay it off early.

8-year car loans, 15-year boat loans, 40-year home loans... all those do is help slowly ease consumers into being a sort of indentured servants (but never really working off their debt). For many, these are the kinds of plans which keep people like Dave Ramsey employed.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
3649 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 8:42 pm to
What’s the point? 100k mortgage goes from $600/mo at 30 to 550/mo at 40 to 525/mo at 50 yrs.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
17430 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 8:51 pm to
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What’s the point? 100k mortgage goes from $600/mo at 30 to 550/mo at 40 to 525/mo at 50 yrs.


Damn it’s only 50 a month less? Yeah $500 less a month on a Mil is not worth it.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9529 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:53 pm to
Not really, at that point you are paying virtually no principal, so the bank would rather just do a five year interest only loan.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87662 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 7:52 am to
No there isnt.


Just go IO
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
18392 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:08 am to
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Is there such a thing as a 40 or 50 year mortgage??

Coming soon
Posted by UpstairsComputer
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2017
1745 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:19 am to
I don't have a ton to add to this conversation, but it's funny the top two posts on MT are "I want a 15 year mortgage" and "I want a 50 year mortgage". And they say financial advisors are a rip off
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1457 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 8:56 am to
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I wouldn't compare a mortgage to an auto loan. Especially when rates were crushingly low 2 years ago, I would have loved to get a 50 year mortgage. Negative real rate financing where you can't get margin called with no prepayment penalties that is tax deductible? It's basically an asset and not a liability.


This. Absolutely no reason to not get as long of a mortgage as possible. Just put a large principal only payment in with your regular payment. If times get tough, you can scale back your principal payment.
Posted by Miglez
Member since Jan 2018
532 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 9:39 am to
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This. Absolutely no reason to not get as long of a mortgage as possible. Just put a large principal only payment in with your regular payment. If times get tough, you can scale back your principal payment.



Well one reason not to get as long of a mortgage as possible is the homeowners insurance the lender requires from you.

Many in SELA would come out ahead with a paid off house and self insuring vs the ridiculous cost of insurance today.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20115 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 9:48 am to
over in europe, specifically nordic areas they have like 90-120 year mortgages.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47330 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:29 am to
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over in europe, specifically nordic areas they have like 90-120 year mortgages.


Think Sweden finally put a cap on it, maximum of 105 years.

Banks said it would hurt the common man
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1457 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 11:14 am to
I guess that’s area specific, because my home insurance in pretty inexpensive in North La
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
37005 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:27 pm to
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The comparison is apt if you're looking at it as consumers stretching out payments for as far as they can in order to afford as expensive an item (whether house or vehicle) as possible.
With the significant difference that one of them is not a depreciating asset.

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You would likely not be using such a long term in order to buy something you can barely afford even at that length, but rather you would likely use the lower notes to pay it off early.
No, I wouldn't. My goal with my current mortgage is to never pay it off. I have a 10-year IO ARM at <3%.

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8-year car loans, 15-year boat loans, 40-year home loans... all those do is help slowly ease consumers into being a sort of indentured servants (but never really working off their debt). For many, these are the kinds of plans which keep people like Dave Ramsey employed.
Nah. If one is even quasi-competent at investing, the gains are radical.
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