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re: How old are you and how much goes toward your retirement each month?
Posted on 12/12/21 at 5:48 pm to Big Ole Baw
Posted on 12/12/21 at 5:48 pm to Big Ole Baw
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My portfolio is killing the returns of the target date fund it automatically put me in
Congrats? How does this make a target date fund a “bad” strategy for long term wealth creation?
An example of a bad strategy would be a savings account.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 5:59 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Congrats? How does this make a target date fund a “bad” strategy for long term wealth creation?
Because it takes 30 minutes to update the elections from a target date to actual funds that will most likely make you several hundreds of thousands of dollars more wealthy in the long run.
Seems like the ROI on your time makes it a no brainer to me.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 6:39 pm to Big Ole Baw
I think you are ignoring the risk premium of said alternative funds. It’s a false equivalence: “I took on more risk and made a better return…that less risky fund sucks.”
Target date funds are typically going to have some mix of bonds and potentially cash equivalents. It’s not designed to deliver the same returns as VTI.
Target date funds are typically going to have some mix of bonds and potentially cash equivalents. It’s not designed to deliver the same returns as VTI.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 6:51 pm to lynxcat
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I think you are ignoring the risk premium of said alternative funds. It’s a false equivalence: “I took on more risk and made a better return…that less risky fund sucks.”
Target date funds are typically going to have some mix of bonds and potentially cash equivalents. It’s not designed to deliver the same returns as VTI.
Did you really take more risk at 25 foregoing bonds? Yes it's technically more risky but if your portfolio is saved by bonds 30+ years from retirement, we're all screwed, no matter what funds youre in.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 7:02 pm to TDsngumbo
42 and currently not sure what will be contributed this year. I started with a new company 4 months ago, and don’t yet qualify for 401k matching. I’m saving $700/week and waiting to decide where it goes between Roth/IRA/Investment accounts.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 7:05 pm to lynxcat
People exaggerate it is nothing new. I think several on this board are true to the course but several see others posting their shite and decide they need to "one up."
Same issue as on the OT when you ask about ACT, 40 time, how many hits you could get against MLB pitching, who could have played PRO, etc.....
I have the automatic deduction out of my check that is 10% but outside of that it goes into crypto right now. It use to go into stocks but I've moved more towards BTC, ETH, etc recently and quit putting towards stocks.
Same issue as on the OT when you ask about ACT, 40 time, how many hits you could get against MLB pitching, who could have played PRO, etc.....
I have the automatic deduction out of my check that is 10% but outside of that it goes into crypto right now. It use to go into stocks but I've moved more towards BTC, ETH, etc recently and quit putting towards stocks.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 7:28 pm to FinleyStreet
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On an unrelated note, I have a very hard time believing some of these responses..
What kind of POS would lie on an internet forum
Posted on 12/12/21 at 7:29 pm to tduecen
I tend to think this board is 95% genuine.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 7:37 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Do you have access to a 403b?
Not through my employer, but I’ve had financial advisors offer their services for a 403b. I didn’t like the fees and other issues that seemed to be attached to outsourcing my retirement contributions.
Way I see it, my own management of a Roth IRA through an index fund should get me around $500k by age 58. I didn’t mention that my wife is also a teacher and is maxing out her Roth as well. So $1 million, teacher retirement benefits, and approximately $5200/month from the combined pension plans for life (estimated). Seems to be an okay plan? That doesn’t even include drawing social security at 65.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 7:58 pm to TheWiz
I tend to think 70% if it was on the OT I would say 40%
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:00 pm to StringedInstruments
As a former teacher, you will teach until 65 and then retire with a part time job at WalMart. Part of the reason I got out of it
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:07 pm to Big Ole Baw
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Because it takes 30 minutes to update the elections from a target date to actual funds that will most likely make you several hundreds of thousands of dollars more wealthy in the long run.
Seems like the ROI on your time makes it a no brainer to me.
I don’t disagree with any of this.
If your strategy yields a portfolio worth $4M after 30+ years and the target date fund strategy yields a portfolio worth $3.2M, then both strategies are good strategies for long term wealth creation.
It’s just ignorant to say “maxing a 401 with target date funds is a bad strategy for long term wealth creation.”
Lol. It’s a ridiculous statement tbh.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:23 pm to TheWiz
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tend to think this board is 95% genuine.
I'm at 60 / 40
Posted on 12/12/21 at 10:54 pm to tduecen
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As a former teacher, you will teach until 65 and then retire with a part time job at WalMart. Part of the reason I got out of it
And why is that?
Posted on 12/13/21 at 3:38 am to Powerman
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Unfortunately with my previous company I could never even get close to the match because of participation in the plan.
I got screwed with this too in my early 30’s - still pissed that my organization didn’t try to do more to encourage others to participate.
That money would have marinated nicely by now.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 7:12 am to TDsngumbo
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I am wondering if I’m average or too low/high. I used to contribute each month to my Roth IRA but stopped back in 2018 to pay off some debt and started up again in August this year. I’m now contributing $500/month to my IRA and another $967/month to my 401k, including my employer’s portion. That’s a total of $1,467/month. I am 36 years old and would like to retire at age 62. Is that typical or too much? What do y’all do?
Have you tried one of the many retirement calculators on the internet? Everyone’s situation on this board is a little different, along with their needs and goals. How much income do you think you will need when you retire? Some places I have read say to plan on living off 4% of your nest egg.
The real question is how much income do you think you need when you retire. I think about this everyday. Don’t let some of these numbers here intimidate you. There are a lot of people better off than you and me. Three are also more people that are much worse off and relying on SS and that e deaths of their parents. This ain’t you. If you are this aware and focused on retirement, I’m sure you will be fine.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 7:44 am to Tomcat
Wife's pension will pay her 7500.00 per month after taxes and insurance. We contribute 50k to other retirement plans with plans of retiring in 12 to 18 months
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 8:23 am
Posted on 12/13/21 at 7:54 am to TDsngumbo
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10% to TSP, $350 to life insurance and $200 to Roth IRA.
Financial advisor said 62-65 I can retire comfortably.
I will bump those numbers up w/ age and retire at 57.5 most likely.
10% to TSP, $350 to life insurance and $200 to Roth IRA.
Financial advisor said 62-65 I can retire comfortably.
I will bump those numbers up w/ age and retire at 57.5 most likely.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:13 am to GabeK
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Wife's pension will pay her 75000.00 per month after taxes and insurance. We contribute 50k to other retirement plans with plans of retiring in 12 to 18 months
If there is not an extra zero in there, I need to know your wife’s line of work. I might have time to switch and end up with a $900,000/year pension.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:23 am to Lightning
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If there is not an extra zero in there, I need to know your wife’s line of work. I might have time to switch and end up with a $900,000/year pension.
Fixed it.....7500.00
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