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How much cash do u keep on hand in ur 401k in event market goes to shiit? 75%/25% with 25%

Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:14 pm
Posted by SuckerPunch
Member since Feb 2024
913 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:14 pm
In cash?
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
880 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:16 pm to
I'm about 30% cash for buying opportunities.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
14651 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:26 pm to
0%

you will always lose trying to time the market
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29994 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:28 pm to
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0% you will always lose trying to time the market

I’ll concern myself with “market timing” by starting to move from 100% equity once I’m within a decade of retirement.

Not a day before.
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 2:28 pm
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
2314 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:29 pm to
Keep 3-6 months of living expenses in an Emergency Fund in case of emergency/loss of job/etc. Don't keep cash in your 401k. Stocks and bonds depending on expected retirement age and your risk tolerance.
Posted by GeauxTigers777
Member since Oct 2007
1587 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:33 pm to
I have about 15% cash, but that’s funds that will likely be needed in the next 6 months for a protect, and money market account pays higher than my savings. If I don’t have anything on the horizon, I keep zero cash.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
Premium Plus® Member
Member since Jul 2021
2713 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

I'm about 30% cash for buying opportunities
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24726 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:51 pm to
$0.

I do keep some cash in taxable brokerage now that the returns are decent.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
82269 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:51 pm to
i've got some big lump sums right now in MMF after cashing out some other stocks..,

will keep DCA VOO

but if we get a big correction or crash i will throw it all in VOO.
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
797 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 2:54 pm to
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Unless you are a professional trader why would you try to time market?
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
10932 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 3:07 pm to
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Unless you are a professional trader why would you try to time market?


Depends on where you are in life. If you’re in your 30s or 40s, you are right. If you are 60, that’s different.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
880 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Unless you are a professional trader why would you try to time market?


I know not addressed to me but, I keep some cash handy in the event you have a big down day, and there are some things worth buying.
For ex. a couple of weeks ago I bought a few things on the big break.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47310 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 4:16 pm to
I keep 0% in cash in my 401k. Just keep following the plan day in and day out. Very effective
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29994 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

I know not addressed to me but, I keep some cash handy in the event you have a big down day, and there are some things worth buying. For ex. a couple of weeks ago I bought a few things on the big break.

Except that the random big up days vastly outstrip the bad days.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
17416 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 4:32 pm to
0.0
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
797 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 4:34 pm to
Maybe for you or other investors but even in my 60s I’m not going to have money earmarked for investments held in cash (I’m excluding emergency fund cash as that is outside the scope of this conversation)



Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

How much cash do u keep on hand in ur 401k in event market goes to shiit?


When I had a 401K, I kept 0% in cash or cash equivalents. Contributions went 100% into whatever my equity mutual fund allocations were.

In my IRAs, I keep about 10% in cash or cash equivalents, which I use to trade credit spreads, cash secured puts, etc. The goal is to have a roughly 10% annual return with those strategies, trading conservatively (<10 delta on the short option sides). Once the cash from that builds up well above that 10%, I’ll either buy something outright or sell a higher delta (>25 delta) cash secured put in hopes of getting assigned at a price I’m comfortable with.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15222 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 5:28 pm to
No cash currently in 401k . About 20% cash currently in my regular Brokerage account. Keep a large amount of that in brokerage account because the bigger amount in there they pay me a percentage as an extra monthly dividend(Mutual fund) .
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 5:48 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
18496 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 5:32 pm to
I manage my mom’s account. Once interest rates went above 5% and as she’s aged, I’ve gotten more conservative with her accounts.

I keep 5 years worth of RMD in cash in the IRA(CDs, money market, etc)

I keep 5 years worth of expenses in cash in her regular account.

She still has more than 50% in stock instruments.

For my own accounts, I’m very heavy on stocks, but I’m a generation younger so I have the timeline to absorb a big loss and recover.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75630 posts
Posted on 8/17/24 at 5:33 pm to
I don't keep cash in my 401k. Just throw the fixed amount in each month.

I keep a large reserve fund due to experience (probably larger than most), and I pounce when the market tanks.
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