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Gov't seizing 401K money

Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:17 pm
Posted by JBM210
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:17 pm
It's being attempted in other countries, someone convince me that this can't happen here. It's sad but the only thing I wish for, for me and my wife is enough money to live on until I die. I'm not talking traveling the world when I retire.I'm talking having food and shelter. I won't owe a dime to anyone at 63 and should have about $300,000 maybe more.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:26 pm to
Clinton floated the idea when he was in office IIRC.

So yes, it can happen here.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:12 pm to
In 2010 it was discussed in Congress.
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It had no traction, so it was dropped.
Hillary Clinton made an attempt at a form of Obamacare when Bill was prez. 10-12 years later, we got "Universal Healthcare" or gov't takeover of healthcare rammed down our throats.

401k's will be seized eventually. It may take 10 years, maybe less.
There are many ways to takeover 401k's. They could force people to contribute 25% into gov't bonds that pay nothing. This could be added to what the Fed buys. There are many games they could play.
They could take it from the "rich" first, but that won't be enough. Then lower the bar slowly over time until you are considered "rich" just for having a 401k. They will call you mean spirited for not "sharing" it with people on food stamps. They will completely ignore the fact that you worked hard for years to save this money.
They will sign the bill on a Friday after 5pm, and no one will report on it until Monday, so it will be too late to make a move.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 12:46 am to
The only thing I am hoping for is that with so many people relying on their 401k for retirement now, people will not accept their congressmen to screw with it
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69895 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 5:29 am to
quote:

someone convince me that this can't happen here


Theoretically it could happen here, but it's ridiculously unlikely. Stop listening to Alex Jones
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4445 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 6:40 am to
Is this scenario more or less likely than congress passing pre-emptive legislation that would prevent this very thing from one day happening
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126959 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 7:11 am to
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It's being attempted in other countries,
Where? In fact, please elaborate on what other countries have 401(k) plans. Thanks.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126959 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 7:12 am to
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Stop listening to Alex Jones

Ah...so that's where this nonsense is coming from.
Posted by CoolHand
Member since Dec 2011
2083 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:11 am to
I don't know who Alex Jones is and I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I honestly don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that if the majority of voters aren't heavily invested in tax advantaged accounts, the government will find a way to change the rules.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8961 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:17 am to
I may be delusional, but it would seem to me that any attempt by the Govt to tap into 401/403 funds would get true bipartisan push back from the American public.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11905 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:24 am to
quote:

I may be delusional, but it would seem to me that any attempt by the Govt to tap into 401/403 funds would get true bipartisan push back from the American public.


There was push back with Obamacare. There will be push back if something like this was being passed. It won't stop the government. They'll continue to frick over the people.
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8135 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:50 am to
it could happen. they will have to increase revenue to pay for this debt and our unfunded liabilities so i wouldn't rule anything out. i think a more realistic scenario is them raising the early withdrawal penalties on 401ks and IRAs from 10% up to 20-30%.
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
1995 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 8:59 am to
So what should be done if the fed starts taken away our retirement? Does it mean a life of work and no reward?
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10940 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:08 am to
quote:

I may be delusional, but it would seem to me that any attempt by the Govt to tap into 401/403 funds would get true bipartisan push back from the American public.


There was push back with Obamacare. There will be push back if something like this was being passed. It won't stop the government. They'll continue to frick over the people.


Difference is the people thought they were getting something for free (legislating their own well-being etc.). The people won't care about paying down debt so the hell with taking money out of savings accts.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126959 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:09 am to
This thread needs to be on the Poli Board.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 9:53 am to
I'm in my 20s. I won't be able to retire?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:08 am to
quote:

I'm in my 20s. I won't be able to retire?


Don't worry, you will have Social Security.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69895 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:23 am to
Buy bitcoins and duct tape, mother frickers
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10940 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Don't worry, you will have Social Security.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8961 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Buy bitcoins and duct tape


How are we going to corner the market if you keep telling everybody our plan?
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