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re: Do you plan to have a mortgage on your primary home for part/all of your retirement?
Posted on 11/13/22 at 8:30 pm to Turf Taint
Posted on 11/13/22 at 8:30 pm to Turf Taint
Yes, my loan is at 3.5 % and will extend into my retirement for a few years. I have no plans to payoff the loan using capital that generates enough income to pay the interest on the loan plus some.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 7:34 am to DiamondDog
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Having a mortgage can't be part of your retirement plan. If you're carrying a mortgage past 65, really 60ish, you're living life dangerously IMO.
Blanket generalizations without facts are detrimental to financial success.
Debt is money. How one controls it is important. And remember, if your house is owned without lien, and you don't pay your real estate tax, you have an issue.
I don't want a real estate tax at retirement. This would help.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 8:59 am to BestBanker
I had financial goals for myself when I turned 30 and 40, and I hit those goals a few years early. I made a new goal for myself to pay off my house when I turned 50. However, that's more of a peace of mind decision than a wise financial decision (based on your interest rate). Instead, I just wanted to have enough money to pay off the house if I wanted the peace of mind, and I've achieved that at 43. When I turn 70, the mortgage will be done (refinanced at age 40 to get 3% rate).
I see both sides. It provides peace of mind to be debt-free and have fewer monthly expenses in retirement, but at the same time, I can do better than 3% in the market (over time). Yes, one is risk free, but what's life without a little risk?
I see both sides. It provides peace of mind to be debt-free and have fewer monthly expenses in retirement, but at the same time, I can do better than 3% in the market (over time). Yes, one is risk free, but what's life without a little risk?
Posted on 11/14/22 at 1:40 pm to BestBanker
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And remember, if your house is owned without lien, and you don't pay your real estate tax, you have an issue.
What do you mean? Property tax is due mortgage or not. Are you talking about another form of "real estate tax?" I paid off a house years ago and taxes didnt change as far as I'm aware. Since it was.primary residence.I paid no capital gains when it was sold either.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:30 pm to Turf Taint
Yes. I currently have 2 million in equity and a 2.75% mortgage on the difference for the next 27 years. I hope to retire in 12 years.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 3:50 pm to Turf Taint
I'm 37, will retire at 59. I am on track to payoff my mortgage in 5 years and I don't plan on having another one again
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:04 pm to Turf Taint
As a millenial I don’t have to worry about retirement since they’re gonna work us to death
Posted on 11/14/22 at 4:25 pm to el Gaucho
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As a millenial I don’t have to worry about retirement since they’re gonna work us to death
They are going to outsource you to death.
Take notes Gaucho. One thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread- if your lender says "you are approved for $500,000!!! Congratulations!" you should shop for something in the $100k's.
The future's uncertain and the end is always near.
-Jim Morrison.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 5:53 pm to deeprig9
They can’t outsource the salt mine baw
Posted on 11/14/22 at 6:47 pm to el Gaucho
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They can’t outsource the salt mine baw
Oh hell yes they can. Watch them.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:10 am to BestBanker
Yeah I’m gonna disagree with most on this.
At that point in life you probably owe way less than the house is worth and can withstand downturns. You’re just paying a fixed rent and sitting on an asset.
This assumes you’ve had the house a while. Taking out a 30 year note at 65, a different thing of course.
At that point in life you probably owe way less than the house is worth and can withstand downturns. You’re just paying a fixed rent and sitting on an asset.
This assumes you’ve had the house a while. Taking out a 30 year note at 65, a different thing of course.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 7:12 am
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:56 am to Turf Taint
Plan on not having one, personally. Game changer for monthly expenses
Posted on 11/15/22 at 9:01 am to BestBanker
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And remember, if your house is owned without lien, and you don't pay your real estate tax, you have an issue. I don't want a real estate tax at retirement. This would help.
Maybe I am missing something but I don’t equate not having a mortgage with not paying your property tax bill
Posted on 11/15/22 at 11:07 am to Turf Taint
I'm probably 25 years off at least from retirement so plan doesnt really matter. We will probably be in 2-3 different homes from now to then. Would it be nice to not have one going into retirement? Sure, but it might also make financial sense to have one too in certain situations.
My parents retired with a house that had been paid off for probably 3-4 years prior to retirement. After being retired for 6 years they decided to move. They got $270k for it but the place they were moving into was $450k. They didnt have the cash to bridge the gap so they would to have to sell a significant amount of pre-tax investment money to get there, creating a huge tax bill at probably somewhere in the 22-24% range on that money sold. So instead they mortgaged like $150k @ 3% on a 10 year mortgage because it just made more financial sense than selling $150k of pre-tax investments and paying a $33k-$36k tax bill on that.
They get to keep the $150k invested for 10 years hopefully doubling over that time. Instead, will pay $24k in interest if all they do is pay every payment on the mortgage as is over the next 10 years...instead of paying a $33k-$36k tax bill up front.
My parents retired with a house that had been paid off for probably 3-4 years prior to retirement. After being retired for 6 years they decided to move. They got $270k for it but the place they were moving into was $450k. They didnt have the cash to bridge the gap so they would to have to sell a significant amount of pre-tax investment money to get there, creating a huge tax bill at probably somewhere in the 22-24% range on that money sold. So instead they mortgaged like $150k @ 3% on a 10 year mortgage because it just made more financial sense than selling $150k of pre-tax investments and paying a $33k-$36k tax bill on that.
They get to keep the $150k invested for 10 years hopefully doubling over that time. Instead, will pay $24k in interest if all they do is pay every payment on the mortgage as is over the next 10 years...instead of paying a $33k-$36k tax bill up front.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 11:11 am
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:22 am to Turf Taint
No I don’t want to deal with a mortgage for retirement.
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