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re: DJ down 550 today and over 1000 on the week, is it starting?

Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:16 pm to
That's him!
Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
1286 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:35 pm to
If I was within 5 years of retirement and heavily invested in stocks I might be worried. If not, who cares? As long as you don't have any money that you need right away invested, you should just watch it ride.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31506 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:52 pm to
If you’re five years from retirement and heavily invested in stocks, you should be moving away from equities right fricking now
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 10:05 pm to
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If you’re five years from retirement and heavily invested in stocks, you should be moving away from equities right fricking now


If you are retired and don't have enough money to tolerate a 50% market decline you probably should reduce equity exposure, otherwise if you keep a year or so normal living expenses in cash or money mark to act as a buffer during market downturns, I don't see any reason to not continue investing in equities during retirement.
Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
1286 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 10:26 pm to
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If you’re five years from retirement and heavily invested in stocks, you should be moving away from equities right fricking now



That is my point. I am not anywhere near retirement, so I am just along for the ride.
Posted by SurfOrYak
BR/MsDelta
Member since Jul 2015
422 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 7:54 am to
Correct. If you are retired, you still need to maintain a sizeable market presence with your savings, as a hedge against inflation. Oh, and to generate a respectable income so you aren't drawing down the balance. Bonds and money market funds aren't going to cut it as your primary retirement investment. Just like younger investors, you can't bail on every market downturn...
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7438 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:33 am to
It's the Fed about to raise intrest rates so people are adjusting accordingly. The sudden stop in the stock market may make the Fed rethink the increase.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133525 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:17 am to
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That's him!
I just searched Rivers' post history and got taken back to a thread in 2010.

Lots of chuckles reading his posts. And a tear or two also. TheHiddenFlask posted in a lot of those threads.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179246 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:21 am to
Is Rivers the same guy that talked shite about you around a month ago on the OT? I remember someone saying how you still had a hard on XOM and how he "brain drained" this board and formed a group on WhatsApp or something from users here because you basically ran them off. He also said how "many in that group were up like 80% this year"
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133525 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:49 am to
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Is Rivers the same guy that talked shite about you around a month ago on the OT?


Nah, that was "dabigfella." He went ballistic on me first in a thread he started here on the Money Board when he asked for opinions on TSLA.

I'd never really followed Tesla stock so I googled Tesla's financial statements and saw where it is losing money on every vehicle it sells and even worse, TSLA has issued new shares of stock (diluting current shareholders) or borrowed massive amounts of money EVERY YEAR just to pay its payroll and bills since Musk has owned TSLA.

So I gave my opinion, like dabigfella asked for, that I thought TSLA is a speculative stock.

I didn't say 'don't buy it.'

I just said it's speculative until TSLA can prove it can make a profit and that sometimes speculative stocks turn out to be good investments and sometimes they don't.

And I said speculative stocks are not for me.

He turned on me like a SJW on Donald Trump. Then he started making jokes about me owning XOM.

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because you basically ran them off.
When some other posters agreed with me, dabigfella said he was going to boycott the Money Board since it has so many stupid people posting on it who don't agree with him about TSLA. He really threw a hissy fit and took his ball and went home.

Ironically, during Hurricane Harvey he was posting in a thread about the people who lost their homes and made fun of them. He said he lives in the Houston area and was really critical of people there who lost their homes and needed to be rescued.

He also said he raised prices beaucoup on gasoline at the convenience stores he owns to take advantage of the people needing gasoline with all the other gas stations flooded and that was in no way 'price gouging.'

Here is one post by him in that thread:
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You just dont go on the money board, im GOAT status on there with my investment advice.
LINK

A sharp-eyed, really intelligent admin (Is there any other kind?) saw his posts and put him in timeout for a few months. LINK
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179246 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:17 pm to
OK that guy is an idiot and always has been so that makes sense.

Did he really create an off board group?

I avoided the MT or a few years because I felt like for a while it was overrun with stupid. I enjoy it again because there is a great balance here as of now on a variety of topics. Maybe his group of idiots and the bitcoin stuff being consolidated are both factors of that but this board is useful again with good information. I haven't felt that way about it since JerseyTiger and a few others left.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:26 pm to
If anyone remembers Bigfellas old account he was big in xom also. I’m still big in xom myself. Not recommending people buy it, but I myself like the stock for long term, 8-10 years. Not sure why he turned on it in a matter of maybe a year.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133525 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:40 pm to
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Did he really create an off board group?

I don't know. I haven't attempted to see if he did or not. Don't care, either.

dabigfella made a cameo appearance in the thread a few weeks ago when WikiTiger came back and posted a few gloats about BTC. Birds of a feather, I guess.....
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133525 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:49 pm to
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If anyone remembers Bigfellas old account he was big in xom also. Not sure why he turned on it in a matter of maybe a year.
I did not know that. I'm wondering if he had a falling out with an Exxon fuel distributor to his convenience stores and that's what has caused him to have such a hard on for XOM?
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I’m still big in xom myself. Not recommending people buy it,
Same here. I view my XOM as a variable rate certificate of deposit where the rate goes up every year. Using the cost basis of my original XOM purchases I'm getting more than 9% dividend yield on that stock.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29470 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 1:48 pm to
I agree with most of the sentiment in this thread. An environment of telegraphed, steadily rising rates in response to stronger improving fundamentals isn't going to be enough to offset the overwhelmingly positive, synchronized global growth we are seeing right now. The only chink in the armor I've seen recently come up is consumer confidence has been on a minor 3-month decline, but it's already really elevated and near a recent peak. That, and South Africa's PMI has declined recently.

It's not like the Fed is going to start panicking to raise rates faster in response to some out of control inflation.

This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3107 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:57 pm to
What about student loans, consumer credit, and/or auto loans?
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29470 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 3:53 pm to
I would be more inclined to worry about any of those risks if interest rates were moving up significantly faster than they are now.
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3107 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 5:14 pm to
Not sure why I got downvotes, I was just seeing if anyone had some more insight on those issues and the actual risk they pose to their sectors, the market in general, and the economy.

I believe consumer credit is higher than before the Great Recession after a few years of increased savings, car loan defaults are going up, and then we all know student debt is just a ridiculous amount at this point.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 5:51 pm to
I eagerly await the Great Crash. As it happens I just finished selling stuff as part of a larger rebalance so I'm unusually cash-heavy at the moment. I will pray hard tonight that the Wilshire 5000 drops like a stone next week.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179246 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 7:34 pm to
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