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Anyone making plays tomorrow specifically for the FOMC meeting results and JPOW presser?

Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:47 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:47 pm
I've got puts on TLT
Calls on REITS and some commodity ETFs.

Some DD from a reddit autist:

quote:

Things to watch at FOMC:

Yield Curve Control

Increases our debt tremendously adding to inflation. Lowers yields on treasuries that have been mooning lately, as they vastly increase the amount of bonds they buy to decrease the yield. We’re already doing this somewhat, as the Fed spends $120b a month on bonds.

Supplementary Leverage Ratio

When covid first caused havoc, the Federal Reserve eased the leverage rules for large banks by exempting certain investments from their leverage calculations. If that sentence sounds like pig Latin to you don’t worry it doesn’t matter if you understand it, what matters is how to make money off the policy extension/ending. The banks were able to exempt any holdings in U.S. Treasury debt or deposits at the Fed from their calculations of the supplementary leverage ratio. It was supposed to end March 31st. Everybody thought that was the plan. J Pow even said a few months back they have no plans of extending it. But then the yields began to rise and fast.

Recently, J Pow shocked the public by hinting they might extend the SLR, or potentially make it permanent. They can’t afford to do YCC (they might anyways because they have a trend of positive short term outlook at the cost of long term growth), so if they get rid of SLR without YCC, more than likely every bubble pops. Not extending SLR means that every bank potentially sells off over a trillion dollars in treasuries, skyrocketing the yields, causing a huge tech sell off, and more than likely bringing the entire market with it, popping the stock market bubble. Mortgage rates move with the 10 year treasury, so mortgage rates skyrocket, popping the housing bubble. A popped housing bubble, will pop the credit bubble. And so on. Eventually sending us into a catastrophe worse than the covid recession (if you want to call that a recession), and potentially worse than the Great Depression. Higher yields means that the debt the Federal Reserve has put themselves in, becomes more costly, and the Federal Reserve and the United States government will become bankrupt and default on the debts we owe to foreign countries. However, lots of people on Capitol Hill are begging the Federal Reserve to not extend it, because SLR is one of the most important regulations for Wall Street to not take advantage of the average Joe, and was implemented after the 2008 crisis. The relaxed SLR covid policy is the reason why the wealth gap grew to levels unseen since 1929 (right before the Great Depression) during Covid.

Rather than fearing inflation and moving to cash (which is dumb as hell if there’s inflation on the rise, because your money becomes less valuable by the minute), use it to your advantage.

4 scenarios and how to play them:

YCC implemented, and SLR is extended

Play REIT ETFs (i have calls on VNQ expiring Friday that i bought at close last Friday). I might sell before the FOMC. The combo of both of these means inflation dramatically goes up, while yields will become incredibly suppressed, keeping real estate prices inflating, and mortgage rates low. Can also begin playing speculative technology again. I’d be cautious tho. Because there’s a chance people start selling bonds faster than YCC and SLR can support it. Collapsing the whole bond system, wiping 80%+ off of Nasdaq. J.P. Morgan predicted a minimum crash of 20% if the 10 year treasury yield hits 2.00%.

YCC not implemented, but SLR is extended

Yields might continue to rise, but not as fast as if YCC and SLR were both off the table. Probably could diversify with commodities and REIT. This one will be the least volatile and markets will probably continue to rise for a bit but slowly. This is the current state we’re in. Yields are still dramatically rising, but not as fast as they would with SLR being shot down. I’d play blue chips and value stocks IMO as well. If yields continue to rise, I’d begin shorting QQQ with puts, because once the 10 year hits 2.00%, there will be at least a 20% correction on the Nasdaq. I’d start buying puts around the 1.85% yield mark.

YCC not implemented, and SLR is not extended

Hold on to your seat belts. Yields are going through the absolute roof. Buy puts on TLT and make a fortune. Out of all the profit calculations on options I’ve ever done in history, this one is by far the most lucrative in terms of potential. Yields rise as bonds sell off. The lack of YCC and SLR will cause a massive sell of on bonds and potentially cause a gamma squeeze downwards. I’m talking 10k worth of puts being worth tens of millions in a months time.

YCC implemented, and SLR not extended

Massive increase in inflation, yields will probably go down. Commodities play. Don’t buy precious metals, because they’re not based off anything anymore. And they’re heavily manipulated. Buy ITB puts (home construction) and calls on commodity ETFs. Lumber will continue to skyrocket to the point that home builders will have to charge insane prices due to supply cost, leading to dramatically less demand. It’s currently forming a head and shoulders on the 1 month chart. Also the moratorium ends March 31st as well, leading to foreclosures. This will increase the supply of available homes on the market, thus, even less demand for home builders.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:49 pm to
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the Fed spends $120b a month on bonds.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:01 pm to
A lot of words to say, we’re all fricked.

It might not be Wednesday, but someday, we are fricked.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35336 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

A lot of words to say, we’re all fricked.

It might not be Wednesday, but someday, we are fricked.


Perhaps, but there are ways to profit off of things going to shite. I'm trying to find them.
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1884 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:18 pm to
Pop this shite already. I’ve sat out most of the year over this stupid market hype rise.

I want to buy on a fire sale like last March!
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:27 pm to
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It might not be Wednesday, but someday, we are fricked.


will not happen anytime soon. we can not begin the opening up of the economy while allowing the market to crash. ycc seems almost a certainty

This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 10:28 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:28 pm to
This Fed needs to lead like prior Feds have and recognize a (multiple) bubble(s) when they see one. The data show the so-called “wealth effect” is real, but not having the desired result. Most of that wealth is being concentrated amongst elites who are simply hoarding it vs. spending it. What’s better for the lower classes who don’t own financial assets is making asset prices more affordable, which means the Fed, if it has any conscience, needs to get into the bubble pricking business.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:31 pm to
I suspect you’ll be waiting for quite a while longer
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4493 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:07 pm to
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Not extending SLR means that every bank potentially sells off over a trillion dollars in treasuries, skyrocketing the yields, causing a huge tech sell off, and more than likely bringing the entire market with it, popping the stock market bubble. Mortgage rates move with the 10 year treasury, so mortgage rates skyrocket, popping the housing bubble. A popped housing bubble, will pop the credit bubble. And so on. Eventually sending us into a catastrophe worse than the covid recession (if you want to call that a recession), and potentially worse than the Great Depression. Higher yields means that the debt the Federal Reserve has put themselves in, becomes more costly, and the Federal Reserve and the United States government will become bankrupt and default on the debts we owe to foreign countries.




That is some great fan fiction you've fallen for
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2003 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

Not extending SLR means that every bank potentially sells off over a trillion dollars in treasuries, skyrocketing the yields, causing a huge tech sell off, and more than likely bringing the entire market with it, popping the stock market bubble.


You really gotta love a well placed POTENTIALLY in that mess of an opinion.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:23 pm to
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Higher yields means that the debt the Federal Reserve has put themselves in, becomes more costly, and the Federal Reserve and the United States government will become bankrupt and default on the debts we owe to foreign countries.


Yes obviously something like this simply won't be allowed to occur.


The best I'm realistically hoping for out of any of these plays is an IV pop if things start to move tomorrow just before or just after the speech
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 12:15 am
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
73748 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 12:51 am to
quote:

Not extending SLR means that every bank potentially sells off over a trillion dollars in treasuries, skyrocketing the yields, causing a huge tech sell off, and more than likely bringing the entire market with it, popping the stock market bubble. Mortgage rates move with the 10 year treasury, so mortgage rates skyrocket, popping the housing bubble. A popped housing bubble, will pop the credit bubble. And so on. Eventually sending us into a catastrophe worse than the covid recession (if you want to call that a recession), and potentially worse than the Great Depression. Higher yields means that the debt the Federal Reserve has put themselves in, becomes more costly, and the Federal Reserve and the United States government will become bankrupt and default on the debts we owe to foreign countries.


Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6732 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 4:10 am to
quote:

Not extending SLR means that every bank potentially sells off over a trillion dollars in treasuries, skyrocketing the yields, causing a huge tech sell off, and more than likely bringing the entire market with it, popping the stock market bubble. Mortgage rates move with the 10 year treasury, so mortgage rates skyrocket, popping the housing bubble. A popped housing bubble, will pop the credit bubble. And so on. Eventually sending us into a catastrophe worse than the covid recession (if you want to call that a recession), and potentially worse than the Great Depression. Higher yields means that the debt the Federal Reserve has put themselves in, becomes more costly, and the Federal Reserve and the United States government will become bankrupt and default on the debts we owe to foreign countries.


This would make a great movie script
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6217 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 5:31 am to
Something has to give. The level of zombie companies is staggering. The level of negative rate investments globally is staggering. The ease of credit is staggering.

Savers are being crushed and valuations are getting closer and closer to the tech bubble highs.

We have the lowest rates in the history of mankind, the largest Fed balance sheet and not many bullets left in the chamber.

I can envision a really bad scenario - but it is not rapid, sexy event. It is a prolonged event that may be generational.



This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 5:33 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 6:45 am to
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A lot of words to say, we’re all fricked.

It might not be Wednesday, but someday, we are fricked.



That DD is overblown considerably.

The Nasdaq isn’t falling 80% and plenty of experts would disagree with the importance he’s putting on SLR.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35336 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:04 am to
Yea all his “outcomes” are super dramatic and aren’t going to happen but all the options plays he put in his post were very cheap with very low IV so any kind of movement could make those calls/puts pop today or tomorrow.
Posted by Effthatnoise
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Yea all his “outcomes” are super dramatic and aren’t going to happen but all the options plays he put in his post were very cheap with very low IV so any kind of movement could make those calls/puts pop today or tomorrow


I agree. Directionally his plays are sound but he gets off the rails.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2821 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:26 am to
Have hedge positions in leveraged short ETFs SDS and SRTY. Not so much a play on FOMC meeting but more on technicals of the market, the timing seems to have converged with the meeting.
Posted by RebelExpress38
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:16 am to
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Most of that wealth is being concentrated amongst elites who are simply hoarding it vs. spending it. What’s better for the lower classes who don’t own financial assets is making asset prices more affordable, which means the Fed, if it has any conscience, needs to get into the bubble pricking business.



GTFO. With so many online platforms not even charging fees there has never been an easier time for the common man to get exposure to the market, and there are such things as fractional shares so "affordability" is a terrible argument.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:28 am to
quote:

GTFO. With so many online platforms not even charging fees there has never been an easier time for the common man to get exposure to the market, and there are such things as fractional shares so "affordability" is a terrible argument.


You can come up with all the childish acronyms you want, but the data speaks for itself. This isn’t a social policy argument - it’s a macroeconomic argument. 10+ years of easy monetary policy has not had a demonstrable positive effect on the economy. We’d be better served allowing rates to normalize.
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