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re: Anyone here familiar with Todd Graves and other co-founder bought out early on?

Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:27 am to
Posted by dblwall
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:27 am to
When most people think about Apple computer 2 names pop up the Steve's Jobs and Wozniak. But there was a 3rd person during the start up Ronald Wayne. Think he made a bad choice: " Ronald Wayne, one of Apple's original co-founders, sold his 10% stake in the company for $800. This occurred in 1976, just 12 days after Apple was founded, according to Wikipedia and CNBC. He cited concerns about potential debts and the demanding nature of working with Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak as reasons for his departure. Today, that 10% stake would be worth approximately $300 billion".
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8839 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:28 am to
I thought TG had to sell some equity after Katrina wrecked some of his stores. wonder where those folks are at
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:32 am to
I remember being a Baileys regular and then the canes buyout of that location and thought what’s the big deal about this chicken finger thing? What Graves has done with it since then is amazing.

Other than that I have nothing to contribute to this thread.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38260 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:49 am to
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Anyone here familiar with Todd Graves and other co-founder bought out early on?
I am not, but here's what I will say from afar:

When it was disclosed 2 years ago on Bloomberg that he still controlled 90% of the equity, I was astounded. That is basically unheard of, especially for low-margin businesses like food.

It made me think he must have been incredibly iron-fisted over the years, possibly even wresting back control of equity via means that might be technically legal, but possibly unethical
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
6777 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:00 pm to
I knew of a guy that started Grey Matter Technology and took a buy-out and eventually wound up teaching Chemistry and cooking Meth.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
4866 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:33 am to
Craig must have been the guy that I debated in a marketing class that Canes was too niche and would likely fail with its Siegen Ln store because most humans don’t want to hear System of a Down playing while they eat with their family.

They really went into full expansion mode when Ian was COO. He left to turn Lava Cantina into something like House of Blues and then Todd started flying celebs around the states as a favor which lead to the celebrity branding that really pushed them over.

At least that’s what I’ve seen from afar.

It sucks some of the guys along the way aren’t billionaires, but that’s how the game works. That said Stuff should be a billionaire.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33249 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 10:29 am to
Bailey’s toast >>>> Cane’s toast
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1554 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:00 pm to
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All I know is that Cane's no longer sell chicken strips...they only sell chicken nuggets
this is so over exaggerated on here


Compare the canes chicken size to 10 years ago. Easily half the size, on average. And 3X the price.

A few years ago I won "Canes for a Year". I got a canes box once a week.
Prior to that I would get heroin-like cravings for that sauce. Now I'll get a box once or twice a year, usually when travelling, simply because its simple to order and consistent.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:35 am to
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It made me think he must have been incredibly iron-fisted over the years, possibly even wresting back control of equity via means that might be technically legal, but possibly unethical


Dude, he bought back all of the franchises, one by one. I know a few that are retired at 45 years old with millions in the bank. As I said before, Todd does not burn bridges and he paid fairly and reasonable to buy back his franchises. It is quite remakable.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
7481 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:10 am to
Canes didn't buy out the Bailey's location. Canes built on the opposite side of the street to try to shut Bailey's down. It worked.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23294 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:57 am to
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Compare the canes chicken size to 10 years ago. Easily half the size, on average. And 3X the price.


You can say the same about all fast food. More expensive and smaller portions. I haven't eaten at canes much, my kids love it, but I never felt like the tenders were noticeably tiny. I don't doubt they were much bigger years ago, but for new customers its obviously not a major issue.

Given that, OP there's 100s of thousands of people that got out early with start ups that eventually fail and there's the same amount that get out on ones that do extremely well. Its water under the bridge.

If he took that same buyout and put it in Apple or Tesla or bitcoin or whatever, he would have Millions also.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5515 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:51 am to
It's easy to Monday morning QB these things, but if you've ever been a part of a growing startup, it's easy to see how this happens.

It takes almost an insane amount of belief, work, stress, fortitude, and risk to grow to the levels of a Canes or of an Apple. In many cases, to the point of the idea or vision being asinine to anyone but the founder. If you're a worker in the early stages, that long term vision can be hard to believe in, even when you're that close to the sun.

There's a reason so few of these companies or stories exist. It's because so few people are capable of getting the business there.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 11:52 am
Posted by sjak
Member since Oct 2011
94 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 11:08 am to
I complained to corporate about the smaller sizes, was told they get there chicken from 3 different suppliers.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32638 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 1:23 pm to
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complained to corporate about the smaller sizes, was told they get there chicken from 3 different suppliers.

Canes got you good there, shifting the blame. The suppliers grow the chicken to Cane’s requirement. Canes has obviously lowered the requirement so they can get more chicken fingers due to their rapid expansion, though the fingers will be smaller since the birds will be younger. They likely cost less as well, so double benefit to Canes
Posted by PhifeDogg
Member since Mar 2006
6252 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 2:54 pm to
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I remember being a Baileys regular and then the canes buyout of that location 

Did they buyout Baileys, or did they just put them out of business?
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8097 posts
Posted on 7/20/25 at 10:42 pm to
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Did they buyout Baileys, or did they just put them out of business?


They got put out of business.
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