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Posted on 2/10/23 at 3:17 pm to Upperdecker
I think it depends on the company you work for and their distinctions between engineer I, II, III, senior, principal, etc.
To answer your question though, I’m an engineer ii by my company’s matrix, although I had achieved the title “senior engineer” at my previous plant which was a much bigger chemical company. The next level up for me at my current company is “senior engineer.”
To answer your question though, I’m an engineer ii by my company’s matrix, although I had achieved the title “senior engineer” at my previous plant which was a much bigger chemical company. The next level up for me at my current company is “senior engineer.”
Posted on 2/10/23 at 3:57 pm to Virgo
From what I’ve seen, plants lean towards senior/principal/etc, and EPC tends towards 1-5 scale
If you’re on a 1-5 you should be a 3
If you’re on a 1-5 you should be a 3
Posted on 2/10/23 at 4:27 pm to Upperdecker
My company (several plants) does I, II, senior, principal, fellow
Posted on 2/10/23 at 4:53 pm to Virgo
There typically is a salary range (min, median, max) and is a factor of performance and your position in range (PIR). If you are below median, big leaps with high performance. If you are above median, relatively big leaps to lower performers but not linear. If you are near the top of PIR, upside is near nil.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:06 pm to Virgo
Have you hit the 8% bonus every year?
Posted on 2/12/23 at 9:10 am to Virgo
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what do others (particularly engineers) use to determine market value? salary.com? etc
That stuff is garbage. "Engineer" is a generic term now. Can mean an actual engineer or some random baw.
The only way for an engineer to gauge value is to know what others make. What do ppl in your role at competitior make?
Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:57 am to Billy Blanks
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I don't know anything about that career but that seems awfully low pay for that field. No? It's good money but if you had me guess, I was thinking 200-250k range.
Im with you. I know controls engineers with no actual engineering degree making close to that 10 years ago working 40 hours a week. 130k is a nice salary but I would have expected more for a PE with 10 years of experience.
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 10:58 am
Posted on 2/12/23 at 2:25 pm to diat150
PE doesn’t really bring a premium at the petrochemical plants I’m familiar with.
$130k may be a tad low for 10 years. My acquaintances were close to that 5 years ago as 10-yr employees.
I’d expect a raise a couple percentage points higher than normal. That seems to be a trend in the job market in that field, in very rough figures.
When I’ve talked with others in the EPC realm, I’ve lately been pretty surprised at their pay being less than expected.
$130k may be a tad low for 10 years. My acquaintances were close to that 5 years ago as 10-yr employees.
I’d expect a raise a couple percentage points higher than normal. That seems to be a trend in the job market in that field, in very rough figures.
When I’ve talked with others in the EPC realm, I’ve lately been pretty surprised at their pay being less than expected.
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 2/12/23 at 2:28 pm to Virgo
If you don’t mind me asking, what is your typical work week, not including any after hours phone calls?
This post was edited on 2/12/23 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 2/12/23 at 4:39 pm to Virgo
I've worked for large chemical companies in the south for almost 30 years. ChE. PE. I've been very successful and have had many different roles, from an individual contributor in highly technical positions to plant management.
The most significant raises I have gotten were due to wage compression or moving to a different company for growth. What your employers are doing is managing the expectations of individuals by giving them a little more some years and a little less other years. Actual performance affects raises very little in my experience.
If your company hasn't adjusted raises due to inflation, they will give you a greater-than-average raise, telling you how wonderful you are doing when they've just been given a little more of a salary budget due to inflation.
When I read your expectations on raises, it makes me a little sad for you. It comes off as you being pleased to get a 5% raise. I suggest changing jobs when you're in this situation so you can get what the market is paying. Otherwise, they'll pay you as little as possible to keep you on if you're meeting the bar.
The most significant raises I have gotten were due to wage compression or moving to a different company for growth. What your employers are doing is managing the expectations of individuals by giving them a little more some years and a little less other years. Actual performance affects raises very little in my experience.
If your company hasn't adjusted raises due to inflation, they will give you a greater-than-average raise, telling you how wonderful you are doing when they've just been given a little more of a salary budget due to inflation.
When I read your expectations on raises, it makes me a little sad for you. It comes off as you being pleased to get a 5% raise. I suggest changing jobs when you're in this situation so you can get what the market is paying. Otherwise, they'll pay you as little as possible to keep you on if you're meeting the bar.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:47 pm to RoyalWe
Walk in their and demand a raise. If they decline, find another job
Posted on 2/13/23 at 3:08 pm to diat150
It’s wild that a professional degreed engineer with 10 years earn so little.
I guess what I envisioned when I was young thinking of engineers and how a single income could a raise a family in a nice house with a stay at home wife and fully funded retirement.
Ehhh. Not so on that salary these days.
I guess what I envisioned when I was young thinking of engineers and how a single income could a raise a family in a nice house with a stay at home wife and fully funded retirement.
Ehhh. Not so on that salary these days.
Posted on 2/13/23 at 3:19 pm to CorkRockingham
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It’s wild that a professional degreed engineer with 10 years earn so little.
I guess what I envisioned when I was young thinking of engineers and how a single income could a raise a family in a nice house with a stay at home wife and fully funded retirement.
Ehhh. Not so on that salary these days.
You weren't wrong. I'm a Elec E. I have a stay-at-home wife and 3 kids. She quit her job when I was only making $60k/yr. We had/have a nice, reasonable house and I have always maintained 15% retirement contributions.
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:23 am to CorkRockingham
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It’s wild that a professional degreed engineer with 10 years earn so little. I guess what I envisioned when I was young thinking of engineers and how a single income could a raise a family in a nice house with a stay at home wife and fully funded retirement. Ehhh. Not so on that salary these days.
Some of ya’ll need to really get a reality check on true salaries. Op is also getting a 8% bonus which puts him at $142k. How much do you guys think engineers make? Again, we are talking actual engineers and not management or executives.
If you asked the avg professional with a 4 year degree if they’d be happy making $142k in 10 years after college they’d likely say absolutely yes.
I realize he is a chem E and some of them in certain industries are paid extremely well.
Most of the better/ smarter engineers find this out early and move into management where they get larger bumps. There’s not many guys that are just like an engineer III that have say 25 years of experience and make say $160k. Unless you are talking like a government position where they are just on cruise control.
ETA: my buddy is a GS15 on Eglin AFB which has probably as many engineers as any government location with his masters in EE, his salary range is like $120k-145k. He has between 10-15 years of experience. Given this is a GS position and he has turned down private sector jobs as he wants to put in his 20. But thats just an example that OP’s not abnormally low by any means.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 7:27 am
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:07 am to baldona
Still seems low. I am a middle school teacher for 9 years (career changer) and I am at 84,000.
My wife is an MSL and she will make over 220k this year with bonuses.
My wife is an MSL and she will make over 220k this year with bonuses.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:25 am to slackster
Medical Science Liaison for big pharma. She leveraged her pharmD degree into this career.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:12 am to jsk020
quote:hard to find... you want a job?
EE with PE
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:21 am to CarRamrod
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hard to find... you want a job?
Not currently looking but always open to talking if the opportunity is great
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