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A.I. investment fund forced to unwind all public stock holdings

Posted on 7/30/26 at 9:38 am
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
2020 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 9:38 am
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The turmoil is an early and potentially significant test of the investment thesis that made Aschenbrenner one of the most closely watched figures in the AI trade. The 25-year-old built the firm around the idea that increasingly powerful AI systems would require a vast expansion of chips, memory, data centers and electricity generation.

The fund’s largest holdings at the end of the first quarter included Nebius Group
, Sandisk
, Micron
and CoreWeave
, according to filings. All four of those stocks are down more than 35% this month.
CNBC
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
672 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 9:47 am to
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Aschenbrenner graduated from Columbia University as valedictorian at the age of 19 before joining OpenAI’s Superalignment team



I've heard that being too smart is detrimental to being a successful trader. A mind like his should be working on cancer research or cold fusion.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36326 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:26 am to
If you see crypto get wiped out Oct-Feb, metals get wiped out Feb-May and signs of equities cooling starting in early June, and you STILL don’t tap the brakes, you don’t know what game you’re playing and have no business running a fund.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:35 am to
Citadel scared the market stating that rates would be raised just to buy his book. You can't make this up.
This is a future movie.

You got a shot at NBIS at 140s and many,many others due to Leopold being margin called and Citadel buying his book.

WOW. Boy wonder got played.
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 10:37 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20538 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:44 am to
So I guess those of us that held and weren’t forced to liquidate are smarter than this dude. Cheers!
Posted by ZZTOP
Member since Jul 2026
68 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:45 am to
Nothing screams fundamentals in a sector like a hedge fund being forced to mass liquidate their 4x levered AI Holdings
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 10:46 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:47 am to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:48 am to
He was up to 45 BILLION, a 180x return, and didn't sell anything until he was forced to sell....to Ken Griffin....
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:48 am to
Literally CAUSED a Nasdaq correction...and cost me no small amount of money too!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40146 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:48 am to
I know some people who work for Anthropic that were offered the "chance to invest in this" and asked me to look at the docs for them. This was only like 2 months ago. It was absurd. The fees were sky high, the protections for investors were non-existent. And a 24 year old who thinks "AI go up" doesn't know the first thing about risk management or, you know, actual investing.

Stupid on so many levels.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88305 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:50 am to
Citadel played them like a fiddle on Tuesday after issuing that Fed raise prediction
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40146 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 10:59 am to
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Citadel scared the market stating that rates would be raised just to buy his book. You can't make this up.
This is a future movie.

You got a shot at NBIS at 140s and many,many others due to Leopold being margin called and Citadel buying his book.

WOW. Boy wonder got played.
This is a preposterous "theory".
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:15 am to
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This is a preposterous "theory".

I don't understand your quotes. It's what happened.

Are you saying it's not a theory? You'd be right.
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
4379 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:42 am to
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1870 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 11:58 am to
Thi sis a dumb tweet, they are up today because SA is not pounding the stock because of liquidity in his book.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50476 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50476 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:56 pm to
also a little clarification. Citadel only bought the portion of the public book financed by leverage

Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52723 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 1:40 pm to
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his is a preposterous "theory".


Looks, smells, walks and sounds like "fact".
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
733 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 4:12 pm to
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Are you saying it's not a theory? You'd be right.

You're right, it's not a theory. It's a preposterous conspiracy theory thrown around by dumbasses on Twitter that couldn't make money without a bull market inflated by money expansion and their sheer mass producing a positive feedback loop for their picks, and even then, many of them still end up as bag holders chanting "diamond hands." Why are you guys eating up this wallstreetbets level of stupidity?

That prediction by Flight at Citadel (ignoring that he wasn't even alone) had, at best, marginal effects on the stock market. Hell, SPX went up and VIX declined the very next day while in a month+ long downtrend. Nasdaq went down, but if we put on our logical hats instead of listening to whatever on X tickles our monkey brains, riskier assets going down in a month+ long downtrend is not a surprise but expected. Now we're up today because the actual Fed decision caused a large enough selloff that, at least temporarily, exhausted that side of the market; it's too lengthy to explain why and how (so sorry for the "just trust me, bro"), but after yesterday's close, there was little logic to sell or continue short positions, at least for the immediate term. And as for the individual stocks, as whodatigahbait said, you don't have that goober in a position beyond his merits desperately trying to close a 4x long position and creating a negative feedback loop in the process.

As for Citadel's purchase, they are the biggest market maker in the US, if not the world. They are the best option to offload the leveraged part of that 4x exposure because they have the minds, resources, and scale to take that on. Who else would you suggest do it??? No seriously, tell me. Because iirc, Jane Street does about half of Citadel's daily volume, but much of theirs is in ETFs. It's hard to find any public and current numbers for any other market makers, but it's quite possible you'd have to make multiple separate deals if you went that route, which costs valuable time for a firm that didn't have the luxury of it. Non-market makers typically don't want to take that on unless they have to. So who or what is the viable alternative to Citadel, who can handle the scale of both selling it and hedging leftover daily inventory?
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