re: You can want Les gone without pretending his whole tenure has been miserable

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2013 broke all kinds of passing records

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You're correct. I did not mean to include 2013 in that post, and edited it accordingly.

2008 - pick 6's all over the place. You'd have to agree that '09, '10, '11, '12, '14 and now '15 have been disasters.

That is 7 of the last 8 years with major offensive issues.

I don't hate Les and would freely admit that his first 3 years were awesome. 34-6 with a BCS and SEC Title was awesome. Something happened in 2008 - the pick 6s - that drove Les into a conservative shell and he has never recovered from it. Other than 2013, our passing offense has finished the year rated worse than 90th in the country multiple times. For 8 years Les has avoided throwing down the middle of the field to the point that we now only throw outside the hashes. When you are a power running team and the opponents safeties don't have to worry about play action passes over their heads, they can either creep up to give them 9 in the box or jump routes to the outside. The fear of throwing over the middle has completely handicapped our offense for years.

The other major problem I see is that despite great recruiting rankings, we often didn't get what we really needed. Les stocked up on highly rated WRs as an example, but didn't get a QB who could get them the ball. We stocked up on great RBs, but the quality of the OL isn't as high as the skill players. We signed no DTs last year. None? Then we lost half the existing DL through attrition. So do we really recruit to fill our most glaring needs?

I hope we win out and Les signs a big class. Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll back off from sticking his fingers into the offense. Maybe we'll get a better DC and get rid of Peveto. Maybe there will be a lot of changes, but Les will survive. I hope we do turn it around, but changes are still needed even if we do.

Finally... Some intelligence on this board

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The other major problem I see is that despite great recruiting rankings, we often didn't get what we really needed. Les stocked up on highly rated WRs as an example, but didn't get a QB who could get them the ball. We stocked up on great RBs, but the quality of the OL isn't as high as the skill players. We signed no DTs last year. None? Then we lost half the existing DL through attrition. So do we really recruit to fill our most glaring needs? 

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Everyone talks up Louisiana. But where are the qbs, the dts, linebackers, offensive linemen? Louisiana just hasn't produced many as of late. Dak will get drafted, but the last qb from la to get drafted was Stefan lefors in 2005, someone saban missed on.

Look at the oline, our best players aren't even from LA. We have one dlinemen starting from LA.

So Les Miles had to turn this into a national recruiting brand to even compete. You can't win on la talent alone.

Nola isnt even at pre Katrina levels yet. Les had to recruit 6 years of this state being down in talent. If you step back and actually take a look, he's done a phenomenal job.

shite, go look at his time at Colorado under mcartney, he was getting black players from California to Boulder.

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Everyone talks up Louisiana. But where are the qbs, the dts, linebackers, offensive linemen? Louisiana just hasn't produced many as of late

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I totally agree with this, but the point is that you just have to get bodies. You may not get studs, but you need to get guys you think can be serviceable. You can't just have seniors and freshman, because you only get a guy on the off chance LA produces one. Sometimes you have to build for depth.

He's needed to go for 5 years.

He got lucky as shite in 2007 to win a title or the whole narrative about him would be completely different, if Flynn doesn't complete the late td against auburn in 2007 that's another late game clock gaff that costs us a game.

Face it, he is a bad coach who more often than not has no idea what's going on late in games, that has gotten lucky to have amazing talent win inspite of his complete incompetence.

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rational

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Im not sure that you know what this word actually means.

Great post!
I only disagree with one thing. In your second paragraph you ask that
" we stop with the act that you have been miserable ever since has been coach."

It has not been an act! There are a huge portion of this board and IRL that have been down on CLM from the time he was hired thru all he has accomplished to now. Instead of celebrating the greatness and there has been a LOT, they have incessantly pounded him for the less than great. Not only here but IRL, since 2005, they have been miserable. Now they get to say see I told you.
I love Les and I acknowledge something is missing and resign myself to the fact it may be time, but he brought a golden age to my Tigers for a good while.

He didn't deserve a lot of the disrespect I have seen over the years. Truly sad!

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Beefense

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Hey look! It's my bitch secretary again.

Beefense is the secretary of my fanclub. She shows up on EVERY post.

Do you know what "get in the kitchen and make me a sammich" means? If you do, I'll give ya a raise!

Dude. You're a bitch. Always have been.