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re: Yahoo article about LSU schedule
Posted on 4/24/13 at 11:06 pm to CalTiger53
Posted on 4/24/13 at 11:06 pm to CalTiger53
That was awful. Does Les really complain about it that much? He could only name 2 rivalries so he threw moo state and kentucky out there. That is exactly why things need to change. Let those four schools play, better yet, when we go to 16 teams, let them have their own division.
or if Steve doesnt have a problem with it, give us the cocks. Oh and btw Steve, you will never beat a Les Miles coached LSU team. And you will prob retire before we even play you again, unless thats in ATL.
or if Steve doesnt have a problem with it, give us the cocks. Oh and btw Steve, you will never beat a Les Miles coached LSU team. And you will prob retire before we even play you again, unless thats in ATL.
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 4/24/13 at 11:16 pm to dgnx6
email sent:
tl:dr
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Graham,
I’m writing in regards to your article about Les Miles’ “campaign to remove Florida from the Tigers’ schedule.”
I don’t think he’s opposed to a tough schedule; he enjoys playing a tough schedule and said that himself. LSU historically plays a tough non-conference schedule and history proves this (especially compared to other SEC teams). We’ve recently played home and home series with Washington, VT, and WVU as well as neutral site games with Oregon and UNC as well as next season’s opener with TCU. We also have future home and home series with NCST, OU, and ASU. I think he doesn’t want his team to be penalized in terms of ability to get to the SEC title game compared to other teams in the West (and have less opportunity to get to the BCS or the National Title game).
I think he makes a valid point when saying the SEC disregarded tradition when adding teams like A&M and Missouri. It was purely a money/TV market grab. I think that is obvious to everyone. So why does the SEC care about protecting the tradition of Bama/UT or UGA/Auburn when the SEC tore apart A&M/Texas on Thanksgiving? Why didn’t the SEC protect traditions when they league moved from two permanent cross-divisional rivals and one rotating cross-divisional opponent per year to one permanent cross-divisional rival and two rotating cross-divisional opponents per year in 2002-2003? Why didn’t the SEC work as feverishly to save Auburn/UF or LSU/UK (a series that was much more a traditional rivalry for LSU than UF….79 meetings all time vs. UK and 59 meetings all time vs. UF; also note that since the annual UK game was discontinued, there have been 7 years we have played UF but not UK).
In terms of the computer draw, he’s made other suggestions in addition to a computer draw. He suggested counting only divisional games to determine who goes to the SEC title game or moving to a 9 game conference schedule so each team sees one more cross-divisional game per year. If LSU goes undefeated vs. the West losing to UF and UGA in the east and A&M at home loses to LSU but beats UK and Missouri in the east, assuming last season’s SEC records for the East teams, I think it would make sense for LSU to go to Atlanta over A&M.
I think his point is that with the “bridge scheduling” and 3 10-win teams in each division, the 2013 schedule should have been put together more evenly by the SEC . Have LSU/UF, SC/A&M, and UGA/Bama in a title game rematch. If a dominant team emerges, we have the divisional champ; if not, it comes down to divisional tie breakers. Instead LSU draws UF & UGA after facing USC & UF last year, while Bama trades Mizzou & UT for UK & UT and A&M trades UF & Mizzou for Vandy and Mizzou. I can’t wait to play TCU and want to play UF and UGA; however LSU’s schedule is much tougher to get through to get to Atlanta and the BCS compared to A&M and Bama. That is an objective observation.
In terms of this comment: “And really, if you want to be a conference or national champion, you should have a resume that looks the part of a national champion.” What part of Bama’s 2011 National Title looked this part until January 2012? The part where they lost the game of the century and their fans cried? I was there; their fans shook my hand, told me to stay undefeated, and win the national title. The fact that to win a national title they need to go 1-1 vs. LSU but LSU has to go 2-0 vs. them? The part of their schedule where they didn’t win their conference or division? Brad Edwards discussed prior to Bama’s selection that they had the weakest resume’ of any team to make the BCS title game.
The bottom line is that when you look at the ’12 schedule, the reason Bama was in Atlanta (and thus in the National Title game) was that they played Missouri & UT in the east while A&M lost to UF and LSU lost to UF. Had Bama switched schedules with LSU or A&M, Bama would’ve been at home the first week of December.
And for the record, two of the three SEC coaches with National Titles like the idea of doing away with the permanent cross-divisional opponents or in some manner addressing the schedule inequalities created by the current scheduling format. Saban obviously disagrees with a 9 game conference schedule or eliminating cross-divisional opponents, but he couldn’t possibly have a vested interest in the outcome of the scheduling format. He also complained about the no huddle offense’s potential harm to players’ safety; he left out the part that it might keep him from getting subs in and not give him time to make sure all his players get the correct defensive play. If he’s such an advocate for player safety, you’d think he’d lobby to limit the number of blitzes per game or make the defense declare blitzers before a play starts.
Please think about your posts and opinions before you post them in the future.
tl:dr
Posted on 4/24/13 at 11:16 pm to CalTiger53
Bama-Tenn is a rivalry only in the minds of Gumps. I don't even hear Tenn fans going on about it. Certainly no one outside those two schools care. A shame that such an insignificant game dictates everyone else's schedule.
Posted on 4/24/13 at 11:31 pm to CalTiger53
What's the name of the article? It isn't showing up on mobile.
Posted on 4/24/13 at 11:46 pm to noonan
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Les Miles is still trying to get Florida off LSU’s schedule
Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:02 am to L S Usetheforce
2012 schedule was not very difficult as we dodged GA and FLa. Regular season. However in 2009 we had the most difficult schedule in cfb, and in 2011 we played Florida an our conf schedules which were pretty similar with very common results against the same team's. Ooc schedules ebb and flow with both schools having a more difficult ooc schedule than the other. Next year is the only year I find that the schedule is completely unfair as LSU got GA an Florida in the regular season. Let's face it though since 2009 Florida ha not been what it use to be and LSU had a better team last year they just didn't get it done.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:12 am to labamafan
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Let's face it though since 2009 Florida ha not been what it use to be and LSU had a better team last year they just didn't get it done.
Say what you want, UF gets off the coach for the LSU game. They always have, so to discount this game discredits LSU and UF.
Let's not talk about 2011.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:15 am to CalTiger53
This Graham Watson twat is irritating. "If you want to be a national champion your résumé has to look the part."
Really? Reeeaaaally?
I suspect Bama's resume has "looked the part" for their last two NCs.
Really? Reeeaaaally?
I suspect Bama's resume has "looked the part" for their last two NCs.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:19 am to lsu711
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What an awful article title. He doesn't want Florida off LSU's schedule. He just wants them on everyone else's schedule as frequently as they are on LSUs.
Completely agree.
Graham Watson needs to do a little more research before he/she/whatever puts out a story.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 12:24 am
Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:23 am to CalTiger53
Those comments in that article. Man those are some ignorant people. I don't like their stupidity
Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:27 am to CalTiger53
Author is a Mizzou grad... and a woman. It would be difficult for her to understand SEC football at this juncture.
That said, she doesn't get a pass for being a dumbass.
That said, she doesn't get a pass for being a dumbass.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:28 am to CalTiger53
Graham honey, Mizzou/SEC Noob, I did your homework for you, since your blog is all spiel/no true content..
The LSU-Fla Series, and it's ramifications on one or the other making it to Atlanta..
1996 LSU lost to Florida and Alabama, both LSU and Bama were 6-2, so Bama went to the SECCG on the tie breaker. A win over some other SEC East team, and LSU plays Fla in SECCG.
2001, Florida dropped the last game to Tenn, or LSU would have played them in the SECCG.
2005 Florida lost to LSU and finished 1 game behind UGA, whom they beat head-to-head, in SEC East. Urban's first year, LSU got out to early lead in BR, and had to hold on late for the small win.
2007 Fla lost to LSU in epic 5-for-5 4th Down classic on road, and finished one game behind UGA and Tenn in the SEC. They beat UT, but lost to UGA, so not sure how the 3 team tie breaker was decided? Tenn went to Atl.
A minimum of 3 or 4 times the rivalry greatly factored into the possibility of LSU-Fla meeting up in Atlanta over 21 yrs.
And LSU was poor for five of the 21 seasons('92, '93,'94,'98,'99) with no bowl chances, thus it has factored around once every four years for LSU-Fla(3 or 4 times in 16 seasons where both contended), for about 20 to 25% of the time mimimum.
The SECCG has featured a rematch of a regular season game a total of six times (1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2010), none of which were amongst permanent regular season rivals, 0-for-21 permanent foe rematches! A stat that though seems hard to believe as true..really isn't if you just think about some stacked factors that aid it along
The team who won the regular season game is 5-1 in the rematches, the lone exception being in 2001 when LSU defeated Tennessee in the championship game after losing to them in the regular season. Which stands to rationale, that if the regular season loss alone wasn't enough to deny a school a trip to Atlanta, beating them when you couldn't the first time, is rather daunting.
That, and the SEC having the Natty Champ emerge 11 of the last 21 yrs(Fla 3, Bama 4, LSU 2, Tenn 1, Aub 1)..tough sledding to want play the powerhouse of the state of Fla, and the toughest division in D-1 in SEC-West!
Something to ponder for the fans of the LSU-Fla series, or UGA-Aub, and even Bama-Tenn(prior to Vol's decline), whom's mantra is 'to be the best you gotta beat the best' and 'I pay a King's ransom for my season tickets..thus need marquee games..championships be damned'
The LSU-Fla Series, and it's ramifications on one or the other making it to Atlanta..
1996 LSU lost to Florida and Alabama, both LSU and Bama were 6-2, so Bama went to the SECCG on the tie breaker. A win over some other SEC East team, and LSU plays Fla in SECCG.
2001, Florida dropped the last game to Tenn, or LSU would have played them in the SECCG.
2005 Florida lost to LSU and finished 1 game behind UGA, whom they beat head-to-head, in SEC East. Urban's first year, LSU got out to early lead in BR, and had to hold on late for the small win.
2007 Fla lost to LSU in epic 5-for-5 4th Down classic on road, and finished one game behind UGA and Tenn in the SEC. They beat UT, but lost to UGA, so not sure how the 3 team tie breaker was decided? Tenn went to Atl.
A minimum of 3 or 4 times the rivalry greatly factored into the possibility of LSU-Fla meeting up in Atlanta over 21 yrs.
And LSU was poor for five of the 21 seasons('92, '93,'94,'98,'99) with no bowl chances, thus it has factored around once every four years for LSU-Fla(3 or 4 times in 16 seasons where both contended), for about 20 to 25% of the time mimimum.
The SECCG has featured a rematch of a regular season game a total of six times (1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2010), none of which were amongst permanent regular season rivals, 0-for-21 permanent foe rematches! A stat that though seems hard to believe as true..really isn't if you just think about some stacked factors that aid it along
The team who won the regular season game is 5-1 in the rematches, the lone exception being in 2001 when LSU defeated Tennessee in the championship game after losing to them in the regular season. Which stands to rationale, that if the regular season loss alone wasn't enough to deny a school a trip to Atlanta, beating them when you couldn't the first time, is rather daunting.
That, and the SEC having the Natty Champ emerge 11 of the last 21 yrs(Fla 3, Bama 4, LSU 2, Tenn 1, Aub 1)..tough sledding to want play the powerhouse of the state of Fla, and the toughest division in D-1 in SEC-West!
Something to ponder for the fans of the LSU-Fla series, or UGA-Aub, and even Bama-Tenn(prior to Vol's decline), whom's mantra is 'to be the best you gotta beat the best' and 'I pay a King's ransom for my season tickets..thus need marquee games..championships be damned'
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 1:51 am
Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:42 am to Golfer
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author
quote:found our problem
her
Posted on 4/25/13 at 12:49 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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TheRoarRestoredInBR
Dropping some knowledge
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:18 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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tie breaker. A win over some other SEC East team, and LSU plays Fla in SECCG
Little.misleading being that Bama beat LSU 26 - 0 and our loss was to TN. TN was a good team then and were two years away from winning the first BCS NC. Until this year FLa rotated on our schedule every couple of years and we have faired well against them including 99 when we beat them twice in one season and were the underdogs both games.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:22 am to labamafan
I don't understand why some people find it so hard to understand that all he is asking for is a level playing field when it comes to scheduling. Sports is suppose to be about fair play right?
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:24 am to labamafan
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Until this year FLa rotated on our schedule every couple of years
I think most knowledgable fans understand that, however you were supposed to play Georgia this coming season with A&M and Mizzou being added to the conference.
Kinda strange that that Georgia game magically "vanishes" and takes the place of our return game with USCe, another team Bama hasn't played since they were beaten by them in '10. Yet the Georgia game is given to LSU, and who does Bama play in place of that game? Kentucky.
Makes no freaking sense. For any SEC team. It's completely bias for Bama. If you can't see it, you're blind.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 1:27 am
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:32 am to labamafan
Bama has always been tough for UF, even in UF excellence eras, going back to the Stallings era, typically physical vs finesse most years.
The wiseguys in Vegas hammered Dubose '99 Bama squad very hard as a dog to win outright vs Fla in SECCG.
I knew an LV guy that bet multi five figures all-in on Tide plus pts and moneyline outright, following his former syndicate's lead, said if Tide lost, he needed to come back to La to make a bank run and borrow from his brother.
The wiseguys in Vegas hammered Dubose '99 Bama squad very hard as a dog to win outright vs Fla in SECCG.
I knew an LV guy that bet multi five figures all-in on Tide plus pts and moneyline outright, following his former syndicate's lead, said if Tide lost, he needed to come back to La to make a bank run and borrow from his brother.
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 1:53 am
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:37 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
what a dumbshit. he/she gets paid for that? there's hope for you out there ranters!!
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:47 am to JayKrewe
I don't want her blog, just amused it was so message board-esque in substance/bias. 
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