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re: Would love to hear the O-clan explain the FG attempt
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:29 pm to MOT
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:29 pm to MOT
Try to simplify it for you since you're pretty dense. The field goal should have been automatic three points. The odds of recovering an onside kick are much greater than getting a first down there. Taking the field gold and recovering an onside kick would have taken very very little time off the clock.
So you still would have had about the same amount of time on the clock now with three more points and possession of the ball with a 1st and 10 on their side of the field.
At least the odds of that happening were greater than converting on 4th and 10.
You would still need three possessions either way but now you don't have to make 2 two-point conversions or one two- point conversion and count on winning in overtime
So you still would have had about the same amount of time on the clock now with three more points and possession of the ball with a 1st and 10 on their side of the field.
At least the odds of that happening were greater than converting on 4th and 10.
You would still need three possessions either way but now you don't have to make 2 two-point conversions or one two- point conversion and count on winning in overtime
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:32 pm to boxcar willie
Plus it keeps you from getting shut out. And let's be honest here we weren't going to win at that point. College football is a lot about perception. It's not like the NFL. Not getting shut out counts for something as opposed to getting shut out in college football.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:35 pm to Housplants
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Would love to hear the O-clan explain the FG attempt
We watched the same game and supposedly cheered for the same school yet this is your Sunday worry? Get real man...
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:36 pm to Housplants
It’s simple, he knew the only chance to win was to not give Alabama the ball back. He figure the odds of making the field goal and getting the onside kick were better than the odds of converting on 4th and long. Unfortunately the optics looked like he was just trying to avoid a shutout and not win the game. Missing the field goal hurt since we couldn’t see the onside kick attempt.
Truth is game was 99.999% decided at that point anyway. But kicking the field goal was less of a concession than going for it would have been.
Truth is game was 99.999% decided at that point anyway. But kicking the field goal was less of a concession than going for it would have been.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:41 pm to boxcar willie
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You would still need three possessions either way but now you don't have to make 2 two-point conversions or one two- point conversion and count on winning in overtime
No, if you somehow convert and score a TD you only need two more possessions. The only way to guarantee you still need three more possessions is to kick the FG.
That’s just addressing the most glaring fallacy in that post without even getting into the absurdity of the make believe odds you’re talking about.
It’s best for O and people like you to admit he was playing for a moral victory, and not considering whatever small chance may have still remained to actually win the game. Maybe he did do that, I haven’t listened to the postgame. But I sincerely hope he isn’t stupid enough to make the argument you’re attempting to make.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:42 pm to boxcar willie
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You would still need three possessions either way but now you don't have to make 2 two-point conversions or one two- point conversion and count on winning in overtime
If you kick the FG, you need 2 TDs, 2 two-point conversions and another FG just to tie. Three possessions.
If you score a TD on that drive, you need 2 TDs and 1 two-point conversion to tie. Two possessions.
You're essentially arguing that you'd prefer to do more work to achieve the same goal.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:42 pm to TheDeathValley
Simply for pride. With the way our Offense was playing we had no shot at coming back. Just wanted to avoid a goose egg on the scoreboard that is all.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:44 pm to Housplants
I support O but did not like that FG attempt
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:47 pm to Housplants
Lol cause he talks like us
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:57 pm to tigbit
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It’s simple, he knew the only chance to win was to not give Alabama the ball back. He figure the odds of making the field goal and getting the onside kick were better than the odds of converting on 4th and long.
Well, he is not a mathematician: the chance of recovering an on-side kick when the other team is expecting it is well below 20%. If you go for an on-side kick and fail, the game is over.
If he doesn't think his team has a 1 in 5 chance of making a 4th down play, he does not believe in his team or his OC.
No way to explain away that decision: it was not meant to help his players win the game.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:59 pm to FournetteForEver7
Who else laughed when Tracy missed the kick?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:03 pm to Havoc
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Because 3>0 and it was 4th and 11? After all the shite we saw, your pathetic arse is gonna attack him for trying to at least avoid the shutout, as if doing so was a bad thing? Idiot.
So you're all about the moral victory
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:04 pm to Imber
He went for 3 to avoid having to hear over and over in the offseason that his hand-picked offensive coordinator has never scored a single point against Alabama in two tries, both in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:04 pm to Housplants
I thought the kick was better than nothing 
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:35 pm to ATLTiger24
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Would love to hear the O-clan explain the FG attempt
He went for 3 to avoid having to hear over and over in the offseason that his hand-picked offensive coordinator has never scored a single point against Alabama in two tries, both in Baton Rouge.
Agree completely: and he did so at the expense of giving up on trying to win the game.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:45 pm to APTigerSaint
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I'm not the head coach genius. Game was lost before he made that call. Perhaps he wanted something positive to build momentum off of to reduce the deficit.
I didn't say you were the head coach, genius. I was referring to Orgeron and saying if he had similar thinking, then he's not meant to compete at the highest level. The game wasn't "lost" before he made that call because there was still 10 minutes left. Winning would have been a long shot, but you don't give up when you're in the red zone down three scores with 10 minutes left in the game.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Not just himself. It would've propped up the whole team. Instead of the media focusing on how great Bama is, they would've spent a little more time talking about how well the defense performed
wanted a moral victory instead to make himself look better
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:17 pm to nvasil1
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You're essentially arguing that you'd prefer to do more work to achieve the same goal.
I bet if given the chance, willie would want to kick off the start the first half and the second half.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:46 pm to boxcar willie
quote:You must not watch much football.
The odds of recovering an onside kick are much greater than getting a first down there
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