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Posted on 10/13/24 at 8:42 am to
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35244 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 8:42 am to
I want that time out back
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21383 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 8:43 am to
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I keep seeing people say "series" but "possession" would be better. If the "injured" player's team gets a first down on the next play, can the "injured" go back in? frick that. Player can go back in next possession, not next series. If possession is too long for you, perhaps four plays or possession, whichever is shorter.


It’s not an onerous enough punishment for cheating. And really just takes away from the player. They typically do it with lineman that rotate anyway.
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
803 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 8:46 am to
Call it the Kiffin rule or the Hotty Toddy rule !!
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29864 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 8:47 am to
Calling for an entire possession, quarter, etc, seems a bit much to me. There are games in the past in which we wouldn’t have been able to field an offensive side due to cramps.

I think one play for a contact injury and three plays for a non contact injury would be a reasonable balance, with unsportsmanlike penalties for clear “walking around fine and drop to the ground on a signal” bullshite.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115044 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 8:48 am to
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if they have to stop the flow of the game for your "injured" arse, then you sit the rest of the series.


This sounds great until it’s someone like Nuss that has to sit out a series because he came up gimpy on a play
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21764 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 8:50 am to
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Non-contact “injury” and player must sit out the remainder of the series as those are generally serious or faked.
I'd say several series, maybe a quarter.

Again, you're talking non-contact, a person is just standing or walking and then randomly collapses. In regular life, that gets you a trip to the ER, you might be having a seizure etc. If someone does that during a game, they need to be evaluated
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29864 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 8:54 am to
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I'd say several series, maybe a quarter. Again, you're talking non-contact, a person is just standing or walking and then randomly collapses. In regular life, that gets you a trip to the ER, you might be having a seizure etc. If someone does that during a game, they need to be evaluated

What if they are walking fine, but pull up with a cramp? Or they are limping towards the sideline and then sit because they won’t make it off before a delay of game penalty?

As much as I hate the fake injury bullshite, we shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water by forcing stars to sit out chunks of games. Literally no one actually wants that in practice.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50346 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 8:55 am to
Just take away timeouts
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
4063 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:03 am to
Nobody wants to hear this, but the only time they unequivocally faked an injury was when we were trying to rush the snap after Caden’s knee hit the ground 10 yards behind where he was called down. They were negating our cheesy bullshite with their own cheesy bullshite.

There were a couple other ones that were dubious, and if you want to claim them then I’m not going to stop you, but the only one that was not debatable was done to buy time for the refs to (correctly!) review a spot.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25102 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:05 am to
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I'd say several series, maybe a quarter.


Just consider that the refs will screw us eventually so, do we want to lose Weeks for a quarter if the Tuscaloosa booster makes a phone call?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21383 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:07 am to
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There were a couple other ones that were dubious, and if you want to claim them then I’m not going to stop you, but the only one that was not debatable was done to buy time for the refs to (correctly!) review a spot.


which should cost them 15 yards. They faked an injury to avoid us getting a snap off. That’s unsportsmanlike and should be called.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14365 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:08 am to
Each injury should burn a timeout.

That would stop some of the fake shite from happening real quick.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18826 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:11 am to
Anyone got a GIF on f the last fake injury. Ole boy was standing there, looks At the sideline, then just drops to the ground.

Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
4063 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:14 am to
Personally I think it should be defensive delay of game and a reviewable call.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
7965 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:16 am to
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I keep seeing people say "series" but "possession" would be better. If the "injured" player's team gets a first down on the next play, can the "injured" go back in? frick that.


“Possession” is what they mean when they say “series”.
Posted by cajunjoey2010
Houston
Member since May 2021
304 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:20 am to
How about a penalty box for 2.00 minutes. If he he is ready after 2.00 minutes I'm okay with that. If he is really injured then it's up to the trainers to say he is ready. Coaches will think twice if it's a good player that goes down for a fake injury. Im okay with the taking him out for that series but series can last 7 or 8 minutes
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21383 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:24 am to
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Personally I think it should be defensive delay of game and a reviewable call.


I agree it should be a penalty. Unsportsmanlike, illegal substitution or delay.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
6910 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:25 am to
As others have said. If you go down for an "injury" you have to sit out the rest of the series. That will be the only way you actually put a stop to the nonsense.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28570 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:28 am to
No other sport stops play for injuries during gameplay, and that’s real injuries.
They don’t stop a basketball game in the last minute b/c someone is hurt.
They don’t stop in soccer either.

You get hurt, oh well. Call a timeout or take a penalty.
The only reason they should stop is if the injury happened with the contact of the play and the player is down immediately and there’s already a natural stop in play. Once everyone is lining up there’s no more stopping for “injuries”.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
11649 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:31 am to
Some of you expressing your righeous indignation should remember Lacy and Penn were legitimately injured last night and recturned to the field in a couple of plays, but would have to sit out considerably longer with your suggestions.
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