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Posted on 1/30/23 at 8:52 am to RightWingTiger
No, my point is the fact that with equal money given to a player, who is the player going to choose, LSU without a marquee, proven championship coach and storied history of winning national championships or the schools that have that? You will have to throw way more money at them to come to LSU, hence NIL.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 9:36 am to IndianInBR
I fricking LOVE that man. McMahon should take notes. He was all culture culture culture in his introductory press conference.
Again McMahon should take notes. And all the people wanting to give him 3 to 4 years should take notes.
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"If you don’t have good players, you’re not winning. You can have all the culture in the world. Houston has an incredible culture and I love what they do and how hard they do it. But it doesn’t work without the good players and the winning. They would revolt if they were doing that and they were 15-15 every year. That’s just the way it works. You have to figure out what you have to do to win immediately."
Again McMahon should take notes. And all the people wanting to give him 3 to 4 years should take notes.
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"It’s pretty simple. You have to build your team year to year. You can’t think two or three years down the road. What can you do to win this year? And then you figure it out next year. That year we lost (Trendon) Watford and Cam (Thomas) everyone is like, 'What are you going to do?’ We’re going to get in the portal and build a team that can win now. It’s not that hard. We didn’t have a lot of guys back, you just go figure it out.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 9:37 am to Alt26
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He has to get impact starters from the transfer portal after the season. Not “development” guys.
Which he 100% won't do.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 9:46 am to Nix to Twillie
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He’s also better at not being anywhere around here. So what’s the point in this?
This is quite possibly the gayest comeback I've ever seen on this site
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:10 am to jb21lsu
quote:I dont like Wade at all, but his interview is spot on.
frick wade
We dont all love MM because his teams do charity work, all go to class, are all A students, never late and cheer for their team mates. We are all concerned that we look like absolute garbage right now.
If he was winning doing the same things, he would be the same coach, but everyone would love him
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:25 am to Toptigerfan86
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Kelly and Johnson have gone to the portal with great success to transform their rosters quickly. Not sure what you’re trying to say there
Comparing any other sport on campus to football is just unfair. It’s just a different beast all together.
Johnson didn’t hit the portal hard until after his first year on campus so I am willing to see what McMahon can do in the portal after this season before making any broad judgements.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:40 am to Superfluous Tiger
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It’s too bad we’ve got so many deluded fans that can’t understand this is exactly what he was dealing with and trying to do here. “Oh but muh Dickie V don’t like it!”
These people are not fans, they are anti LSU. They want LSU to lose in all sports.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:44 am to Toptigerfan86
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Kelly and Johnson have gone to the portal with great success to transform their rosters quickly. Not sure what you’re trying to say there
That’s why basketball is headed for a dumpster fire. The only help is a new coach.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:10 pm to da prophet
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That’s why basketball is headed for a dumpster fire. The only help is a new coach.
I hate the "Kelly and Johnson did this" argument.
Where does LSU rank as a football program, say in the last decade? Take the "blue bloods" term from college basketball. LSU is probably top 5 right? Guys want to come to LSU for football. LSU baseball arguably leads the pack in collegiate baseball. Guys want to come to LSU to play baseball.
LSU got Brian Kelly and Jay Johnson here because of the storied history of the programs. Like the players, coaches want to coach at LSU.
Now where is basketball? It's certainly not on the same podium as football or baseball. Even with how much we all loved Will Wade while he was here, they only broke the top 10 in the AP once. How many guys want to come to LSU for basketball?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:11 pm to IndianInBR
Wow, he's not bitter at all
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:28 pm to Gravitiger
If Wade wants to get hired again he really needs to limit the times people quote him as saying "culture is BS" because in context, ADs are going to read that as "ethics are BS".
There are a lot of solid points he makes in his statements about the current state of college BB. However, his response also demonstrates a lack of remorse and a rationalization of what he did.
There are a lot of solid points he makes in his statements about the current state of college BB. However, his response also demonstrates a lack of remorse and a rationalization of what he did.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:59 pm to IndianInBR
Why hasn't Will found a job coaching basketball somewhere? Doesn't some high school need a coach?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:01 pm to Manswers
Wade did what all the other programs getting 4 and 5 star players have been doing for decades.
But he got caught. That is on him. He should be remorseful for getting caught, not playing the game, IMO.
Also, because paying players is now legal with NIL, he should have nothing else to be sorry about.
The next program to get him will have made a good hire, IMO.
Wade knows how to put together a sustainable winner.
But he got caught. That is on him. He should be remorseful for getting caught, not playing the game, IMO.
Also, because paying players is now legal with NIL, he should have nothing else to be sorry about.
The next program to get him will have made a good hire, IMO.
Wade knows how to put together a sustainable winner.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:31 pm to PNG Futbol
If he wants to get hired again he cannot be the "ethics are BS" guy. It's that simple. He broke the rules flagrantly. He had no defense other than "everyone else was doing it". That allowed him, in his mind, to do incredibly stupid and unethical things like paying his players and prospects from his own account.
If he flagrantly broke the rules before, there's a big risk he'll flagrantly break the rules again, wherever the bar gets set.
If I were an AD, I would not hire him after those statements.
If he flagrantly broke the rules before, there's a big risk he'll flagrantly break the rules again, wherever the bar gets set.
If I were an AD, I would not hire him after those statements.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:12 pm to Superfluous Tiger
Although it's the harsh reality today, that approach will be hit and miss and will yield you a championship every so often, look at Kentucky, won their most recent championship with 3 super talented freshmen ( most likely bought and paid for ) in the starting lineup and has been a good team since and just subpar the last 2 years. You won't win the recruiting/NIL battle every year. This approach is not sustainable every year because it's predicated on immense talent amassed at one time to win in one year, that's very hard to do and is lightning in a bottle. It may be how it has to be approached but your year to year results will have lows in there also if the boosters miss out on outbidding for the best players, coach misses his assessment of talent or the players just don't gel.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:35 pm to des4271
You can build it another way like Houston does but you have to be a good coach. The problem with McMahon, going by his excuse makers, is that he needs Kentucky and Duke level talent but that’s never going to happen at LSU. So you have a coach who can’t elevate or develop players like a Sampson and can’t recruit to the level he needs to.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 4:01 pm to Madking
LSU has made McMahon set for life with the extended contract and huge buyout. If McMahon doesn't adjust to the new landscape with a stubborn approach to building "team chemistry", we may be in for a sad 4 more years. Woodward will not want to admit defeat on his men's bb coach choice.
LSU can't put money into building infrastructure for basketball. Who is going to pay for the big basketball coach early buyout?
LSU can't put money into building infrastructure for basketball. Who is going to pay for the big basketball coach early buyout?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 4:26 pm to Madking
That may end up being true. I'm willing to give the guy another year to see if he can right the ship. If next year is as bad as this year, I'll whole heartedly think the program will need to go in a different direction.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 4:44 pm to des4271
McMahon’s style is just so cookie cutter, I don’t see it working here. There’s no innovation or distinct characteristics schematically that would lead anyone to believe he’s capable of elevating the program. You can call it bland or solid and basic basketball but for a program like LSU to win you have to have an edge in some part of your approach because we’re never going to recruit at the level that can take a run of the mill type style and elevate it through star players.
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