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re: Will Wade question

Posted on 2/19/23 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
333 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 10:23 pm to
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Wade was an underperforming man child.



i think his record was the best in the SEC over his time here. in his second year he won the SEC, went undefeated on the road the league.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
333 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 10:30 pm to
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Starting a topic asking for an answer when you already have your answer in your head in an attempt to make a point. Never mind that the point and answer already formulated are completely without context or truth. Completely dumb. OP should be embarrassed.


correct.

1. he a made a tourmnament that was cancelled
2. he made a tournament and was barred from coaching
3. he made another tournament and was fired

so there are 3 chances he should have had to win tournament games. to not mention that is to be intentionally misleading.

the goal for LSU, and most decent programs, is finish near the top of the conference, and make the the tournament. the tournament is a coin flip. wade was doing it. wade was almost surely the most successful and promising young coach in america. even now he is just 40 years old!


we coulda had decades of wins. decades!
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37204 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

I'll admit I was suspicious.


I am an honest dude.

quote:

We need a Saban-type, meticulous, and able to get the athletic department to move off of top dead center in terms of facilities upgrades.
I really thought with Wade's success and bringing in Kim would drive that together for both programs.

I just know me - I wanted MBB to be consistent. NCAAT is my bar. Sure, a deeper run every few years. We didn't ask for the sky. Literally... when ppl use literally correctly.

We collectively as LSU basketball fans thought we're likely NIT material. Instead, this is where we are.

Blame coach, players, does it matter? We just talk over each other in ways and lots of people have an angle. I said it before and I will said it forever, I just want LSU basketball to win consistent and be relevant.



Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37204 posts
Posted on 2/19/23 at 10:44 pm to
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1. he a made a tourmnament that was cancelled
2. he made a tournament and was barred from coaching
3. he made another tournament and was fired

But, but, but... how many NCAAT games did he win?

Most ridiculous argument even formulated. Let's just not make the NCAAT, that'll be better, right?

And not get to coach when you coached 30+ games to get there. And a complete cancel of the entire NCAAT.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30404 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

Blame coach, players, does it matter?


That's a fair point. The results are bad, the key is to figure out the best path forward.

I had hoped MM would do well here. I do feel very hopeful now.

I know a lot have compared him to Curly in football, saying he had his previous success due to 1 player, I even thought that may be true and made the comparison. But upon closer review, the comparison is very flawed. McMahon actually spotted Morant's talent and signed him even though he was 600 miles from Murray State's campus in another state. Farve was an hour from Southern Miss. Also Hallman went to LSU immediately after Farve left whereas Morant had his best season at Murray State after Morant left.

I typed all of that and still, I do not feel hopeful
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28393 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 4:45 pm to
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know a lot have compared him to Curly in football, saying he had his previous success due to 1 player, I even thought that may be true and made the comparison. But upon closer review, the comparison is very flawed. McMahon actually spotted Morant's talent and signed him even though he was 600 miles from Murray State's campus in another state. Farve was an hour from Southern Miss. Also Hallman went to LSU immediately after Farve left whereas Morant had his best season at Murray State after Morant left.


People, generally non-basketball fans, missed the boat on this. McMahon's success at Murray St wasn't solely because of Ja Morant (though it is worth pointing out MSU had the most losses in a season in nearly 3 decades in McMahon's first two years there before Morant's arrival). It was because Murray St. had been a good program LONG before McMahon became the HC.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47935 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 4:48 pm to
He went 13-13 the year Morant left, just 2 years ago.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

e went 13-13 the year Morant left, just 2 years ago.


Only Murray coach in the last 35 years to not go above .500 and he did it twice
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45162 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

The Wade-o-philes have little self-esteem. They immediately fawn over any flash in the pan (and they will do so when the next coach is hired).


Nah they are dug in on this one. We will be hear about Wade until they are in a grave.
Posted by outerstater
Member since Jan 2022
765 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 5:14 pm to
Will we ever get rid of him? Doesn't look like we will. A name that lives forever.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12001 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 6:29 pm to
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Wade fans act like he was John Wooden


He bought less players than Wooden.
He had a better four year record than Coach K.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
1391 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 5:36 am to
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Wow sounds like the current state of affairs doesn’t it?

No, it doesn’t. Is LSU going to have a winning record? Show immediate signs of improvement? Get an invite to the NIT?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93716 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 6:01 am to
quote:

He had a better four year record than Coach K.

Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:21 am to
A lot of people shite on his coaching but we had one of the better offenses in the league (probably the best) during his tenure. That combined with the fact the guy wasn’t even 40 yet… I think his best days are ahead of him
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12001 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:34 am to
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Being a blue blood is not our call and understanding consequences is smart.



You can accept mediocrity, as a person, or as an institution. You don't have to though.
We went through decades as a dead football program. Then we hired Saban. Things changed, we started winning Championships.
Now we are always mentioned as a possibility of top ten.
With Wade, we had a chance to become a winner. Gutless Woody pushed us back to being wannabes again.
How long Lord, how long?
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