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re: Will the JJ/JL debate be one of those things that never die?

Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:05 am to
Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
Member since Nov 2009
4158 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:05 am to
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yes because we will never have any type of closure



Their last game isn't closure enough?
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21023 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:05 am to
JJ's stats the last 2 games:

16-30, 83 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
20 rushes, 10 yards, 1 fumble

Mobile QB
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6884 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:06 am to
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I never really got my hopes up simply because LSU just looked like they didn't care to be there


This is the part I can't wrap my mind around.

This was the goal the team had all year. The accomplished an unbelievable task going undefeated.

LSU was playing for it all in Louisiana.

It was like once they got in the game, they relaxed. Getting there was the goal- winning, well... just hard to understand what happened.

I can handle a loss- but not one in which we didn't compete.
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
17751 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:06 am to
Since you had to post one more , I guess it's not going to stop........
Posted by Jdawgz
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2009
639 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:08 am to
Don't think it will ever die. The only way it would have died was if we won. With a NC at our finger tips..

Now all Tiger fans will always wonder WHAT IF...

Also if Mett plays well next year then people will start with the "Why didn't Mett Play in 2011"
Posted by ChuckM
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2006
1712 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:08 am to
The thing that gets me was that the pro JJ fans steadfastly maintained that Miles knew more than us "dumb" fans and would never put favoritism or whatever it is that prevented Lee or anyone else from seeing the field, in front of winning the BCS.

Now what? it would seem as though most fans, Bama included and almost all media are sitting there shaking their heads wondering WTF is up with your QB's and coach.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476775 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:08 am to
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Their last game isn't closure enough?

we will never know if LSU would have been able to compete in the title game w/ lee b/c he didn't get a shot
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79569 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:08 am to
I read some rumors on here yesterday about the players just not caring, having to play Alabama again. I find that hard to believe, but it certainly looked like it.

Well, I'll still give props to the defense. Even though they weren't prepared for what Bama came out with, they still played really well considering the offense put them on the field WAY too much.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476775 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:09 am to
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The thing that gets me was that the pro JJ fans steadfastly maintained that Miles knew more than us "dumb" fans and would never put favoritism or whatever it is that prevented Lee or anyone else from seeing the field, in front of winning the BCS.

Now what? it would seem as though most fans, Bama included and almost all media are sitting there shaking their heads wondering WTF is up with your QB's and coach.

no they just blame the OL (who didn't have a good game) and say no QB could have succeeded
Posted by Dark Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4494 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:09 am to
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There was not one point in that game where I thought we were in it


We were out of it from the coin toss on down...

Question - did Tyrann go out to midfield for the coin toss? It looked like he started out from the sideline, then stayed back a few yards with a couple of referees - I don't recall seeing him shake hands, etc. with Alabama players at midfield...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476775 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:09 am to
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I read some rumors on here yesterday about the players just not caring, having to play Alabama again.

no way

our D played their asses off in spite of being out-schemed by Bama's OC
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79569 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:09 am to
Why does a hippie Stanford fan care, anyways?
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6884 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:10 am to
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Well, I'll still give props to the defense.


No doubt.

They weren't lights out like they had been, but they did more than enough to keep us in the game.

At some point, the D had to give up since the O wasn't going to allow them to breathe.
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9777 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:11 am to
Its dead. The 2 are not eligible. Can never wear the purple and gold again!! Unless JJ becomes Qb coach..
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:11 am to
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JJ's stats the last 2 games:

16-30, 83 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
20 rushes, 10 yards, 1 fumble


Holy crap...

I said it before the SECCG, that my wish was that both of these QB's would have some kind of finish that would vindicate them and their careers but I was afraid that the opposite would happen. And it did. Both were used (and not used) in a way that totally makes everyone forget about the decent play both had at times.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79569 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:12 am to
There was one play where Mingo made a great tackle for a loss, and when he was walking back to the huddle, there was this look of determination and defeat at the same time. Man, I hated it for those guys. Their twitter apologies sucked as well.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42468 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:13 am to
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we will never know if LSU would have been able to compete in the title game w/ lee b/c he didn't get a shot


It's true we will never know for sure. But bama was overall just on another level the other night. They had us beat in all facets of the game not just on offense. Looking at all past history of the two qb's, neither were going to be good enough to carry us to victory the other night without excellent play from special teams and defense. We obviously didn't get that.

The debate will rage on but it is really silly considering how below average both of the quarterbacks are. I understand the debates that go on with Russell and Flynn, keiland vs Scott vs Hester. But this debate is just arguing failure.
This post was edited on 1/11/12 at 8:16 am
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:13 am to
If you keep posting about it, it won't die, jackwagon.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65417 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:14 am to
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JJ's stats the last 2 games:

16-30, 83 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
20 rushes, 10 yards, 1 fumble


And took every snap of both of those games, except for a last second kneel down.

That one td pass was a pass thrown to the fullback that didn't even cross the line of scrimmage.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476775 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 8:15 am to
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But bama was overall just on another level the other night.

for how badly they dominated LSU, it was a 2-score game until the middle of the 4th quarter

2-3 big plays in say, the 3rd, changes that game (which is a big credit to our D considering how bad our O was)

we don't know how bama would have responded had we punched them in the mouth once. it made a big difference on 11/5/11

quote:

but it is really silly considering how below average both of the quarterbacks are

well i don't think lee is awesome, but he played awesome until JJ took over. look at his efficiency stats

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