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re: Will Nuss be improved in 2025? Impressions from bowl game?

Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:08 pm to
Daniels is the CFB all time single season leader in passing efficiency at 208.0. Better than Burrow in 2019. Yes, he had better playmakers than Nuss, but he was also that good in 2023. Go back and watch his '23 highlights. He made a lot of beautiful throws over over the course of the season.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 9:20 pm
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2902 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

Lester Earl


quote:

Lacy’s comp% when targeted over 2 seasons with Daniels was 68%.

It dropped to 56% when Nuss was throwing to him in 2024.

Maybe you don’t know how constants & variables work


Look at this another way

Lacy was a primary receiving target for Nuss 2024 drawing the better defenders
Daniel's targeted two first round draft picks which drew the best defenders. Lacy was not drawing the premier defensive backs during Daniels two seasons

Respectfully disagree with the % theory
2022 Lacy 24 receptions
2023 Lacy 30 receptions
2024 Lacy 58 receptions

By no means am I saying Nuss is better than Daniels but Daniels definitely had way better receivers to throw to

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170791 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:29 pm to
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Maybe you don’t know how constants & variables work but Lacy was the constant & Nussmeier was the variable

You're maybe forgetting one thing...he was our #1 target in 24 so faced tougher defenders and got more volume

Let's not pretend he was an elite #1
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30808 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:35 pm to
Both LSU and Nuss finished the season strong!

2025 LSU Tigers-- let's GEAUX!
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5852 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:41 pm to
Zero.

He’s better than all four still playing.
Posted by natethegreat
Member since Dec 2008
789 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:49 pm to
That's completely up to Nuss.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Lacy was the constant & Nussmeier was the variable

So in a maths expression, we're talking about either y = x + c, or y = cx. Therefore x = Nussmeier performance, c = Lacy performance, a y = game outcome.

It's clear that if Lacy was in a zone, his catches had a multiplying, not additive effect on Nuss's game stats.
Posted by superwolf
Member since Dec 2006
1115 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 11:42 pm to
I Like Nuss but he is going to have to keep it & run it at least 2 or 3 times a game to keep the defense honest. He doesn't need to run as much as Burrow or Daniels. As he is now the defenses don't need to worry about that threat.
Posted by CajunPhil
Chimes
Member since Aug 2013
825 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 12:22 am to
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Really, all LSU needs from him is to cut down on mistakes, and run when easy yardage is there and no one is open.


The big requirement is a functional run game with better line blocking. We’ve had virtually no run threats on a play by play basis. Development of that phase of the offense would add a dimension that defenses could no longer ignore in defensive schemes. I think Nuss has the tools if he has run game support to keep the defenses honest.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:21 am to
LOL
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86547 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:03 am to
I'd rather see the supporting cast improve honestly
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:37 am to
Yes. He needs to work on his pre-snap and post-snap immediate reads.

He has thrown into coverage several times right after the snap where the defense dropped out from a different look.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54237 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:02 am to
he just needs to stop with the careless turnovers that cost LSU the game against aggies and florida
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3313 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:06 am to
Ditto. What he did with no deep threat, weak IOL and inconsistent running game should make you very positive with the changes they are making on Oline and the receivers they now have. I think he has a better season even though his numbers don’t have to increase.
Posted by Amused Lurker
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
2156 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:19 am to
Totally agree about the defense. If we can get to a top 30 defense and get some turnovers, the offense will be great.

People keep trashing the run game, but Durham averaged 5.5 ypc this year, top 5 in the SEC. Let’s see if the new RBs can match. The main issue is red zone offense, particularly running the ball from the five yard line in. We need better red zone running.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by Amused Lurker
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
2156 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:23 am to
Did Lacy change position? Did he go from being 3rd option to being the 1 option? Did defense play him different. Sorry Lester, more than 1 variable.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3258 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:26 am to
I know you are in your wheelhouse by taking the contrarian view on Nuss, but you are discounting the WR room too much. Just look at the way our receivers are dominating the NFL right now. Our group was solid last year, but not spectacular as it had been for both our Heisman qbs.

Nuss will benefit from what appears to be a better WR group. I think Nuss will work hard in the off-season to improve himself the way the 2 Heisman winners did. He needs to improve pre-snap reads and can do that if he puts in the time. In-play adjustments, as well. Daniels made huge strides between seasons at this, and hopefully has mentored Nuss to do the same. The "bad" Nuss got flustered too many times. Having better command during duress can improve with understanding and being prepared. I am hopeful.

A caveat to his improvement will be Oline play. It is hard to get a feel for that at this time.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 9:29 am
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7684 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:32 am to
I believe a lot of Nuss’ performance in 2025 depends on the improvements needed in the defense. The last two years would have been exponentially better if our defense was much better.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34268 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:39 am to
His confidence is one of his biggest strengths. It allows him to make some tremendous throws into really tight windows. It also can be his biggest weakness because sometimes instead of just accepting the big play may not be there he passes up the easy/open throw in search of the longer/lower % throw. That issue was exacerbated when he would get pressure up the middle.

Outside of Nic Anderson, LSU is not going to have a lot of "big" physical WRs next season. What they will have is guys who are pretty good in space. Getting them the ball pretty quickly on a pass that only travels 5 yards in the air but allows them space to RAC may be a better option more often than not than trying to wait for them to come open on a long out breaking route.

Nuss has a good arm. He's often accurate. He WANTS to make the big play all the time. But sometimes the big play starts out by just simply getting into the hands of your playmakers quickly.
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3712 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:45 am to
This year could've helped his progression in the sense that everyone knew he was throwing the ball due to a lack of run support. If that changes he's gonna get better windows to throw in. I think the mistakes coincide with how we were 1D and he had tight windows all season.
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