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re: Why was Russell Shepard not given a single touch?

Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:52 am to
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:52 am to
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Why was Russell Shepard not given a single touch?

there were reports before the games saying he and the coaching personnel were having problems
This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 11:54 am
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:53 am to
The amount of touches in his career is less than obj this year. He didnt have any playing time to show off his ability
Posted by b rod lsu
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:53 am to
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WR Shepard's 40 is faster than Landry and Boone. His vertical is higher than obj and Boone. He has talent.


Xavier Carter had redeeming physical traits also. Shep is probably a hell of a guy - made the most of his free education, great spokesman in the media, pretty good athlete, great at twitter - but he isn't the receier that Landry, ODB, Wright or Boone is.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:53 am to
His talent was wasted at LSU...McNeese could have used a guy like him with his skill set. perfect fit for that level of football
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
95058 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:54 am to
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No, i really don't. 7ypc isn't some subjective stat.

the dude fricking averaged 7 ypc and got less touches every year.


He should have gotten what he got in a pro-style system. With the amount of times he was tripped up by his shoestrings, if he got more touches, his YPC would have stayed at 7? No way I believe that. No way. He had limited carries. I'm sure I can find some other no name on other teams across the country that averaged that on specialized runs and they are probably as good as a back up WR. Just like Shep is....

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Its like Hill averaging 10ypc vs. Clemson then not seeing the ball in the 4th.



no fricking clue. No argument there. I'm not arguing about Les anymore. I'm just arguing specific points anymore. Have no fricking clue what that man is thinking.

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Or J. Lee having a tremendous completion pct. then getting benched for Jefferson.


No clue, but he shite the bed vs. Alabama the first time and he had a history of being timid vs. a good pass rush.

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Its a pattern of sitting what works.


I have no answer
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:54 am to
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Posted by jeff5891 there were reports before the games saying he and the coaching personnel were having problems


They cheated him out of a Pat White level college career. He should have problems with them.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
95058 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:55 am to
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perfect fit for that level of football


Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32952 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:55 am to
Good to see you come to your senses
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:55 am to
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The amount of touches in his career is less than obj this year. He didnt have any playing time to show off his ability



For the record, the egg came first.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
95058 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:56 am to
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They cheated him out of a Pat White level college career. He should have problems with them.




This is the kind of shite that cracks me up.

Shep knew what style of offense LSU ran.
He still chose LSU.

So you're basically saying the coaches cheated Shepard out of a career by not changing their entire offensive philosphy and personnel for one guy?

Posted by LockdownDefense
Member since Aug 2008
4441 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:56 am to
OBJ dropped as many passes this year as Shep did last year.

Shep was at least as good as OBJ as reciever imo

CUM couldve made him a star, as could Chip Kelly. Miles couldnt, he's too stupid to utilize the talent he surprisingly gets to sign here.
Posted by Jester
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Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:57 am to
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They cheated him out of a Pat White level college career. He should have problems with them.


And they cheated Terrence Magee out of a Ron Dayne level college career...
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:58 am to
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OBJ dropped as many passes this year as Shep did last year.


Now compare their drop %.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:00 pm to
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CUM couldve made him a star


That career path is probably still open...

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Shep was at least as good as OBJ as reciever imo


He was certainly more dominant...wait

Posted by LockdownDefense
Member since Aug 2008
4441 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:03 pm to
Wtf is up with the positrolls. It took them a good couple days to craft some positroll material but you two or three are trying too hard today. You add nothing but bickering and snickering.

Log out.

Post less.
Posted by TexTiga
SugarLand , Tx
Member since Oct 2007
2549 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:03 pm to
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He didn't have a ton of success here for four reasons:
1. He never belonged here b/c he's a dual-threat QB and Les was NEVER going to play him there.
2. He wasn't given many handoffs despite his good YPC (even though it was predictable every time he got the ball) b/c Les has a certain idea of what a RB is and Shep doesn't fit it.
3. He's not a natural WR.
4. He's not as fast as people think he is.


5.You can knock him down with a gust of wind.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95058 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:04 pm to
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CUM couldve made him a star, as could Chip Kelly. Miles couldnt, he's too stupid to utilize the talent he surprisingly gets to sign here.


Thanks for stating the obvious that a spread option QB would be successful in a spread option offense.

Congrats. you really hit the nail on the head.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:04 pm to
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He is projected as the 41st WR in the draft. With 7 rounds of 32 picks, if a WR is taken every 6 1/2 picks he would be drafted.


RS is the kind of guy who Belichick will sign as a UFA at an undetermined position and will then find a way to effectively use him as one of 53 spokes in a wheel.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95058 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:09 pm to
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Belichick will sign as a UFA at an undetermined position and will then find a way to effectively use him as one of 53 spokes in a wheel.


...and do what with him? LBs in the NFL will kill him on those end arounds.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26811 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:10 pm to
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Disagree. He went down too easy.

His runs were 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, -3, 1, 49. Of course his YPC is going to be high.


Let me just give you a good example of Shep's great utilization. He was the leading rusher for LSU against Towson with ONE carry for 78 yards. He ran for the TD with 10 minutes left in the first quarter and never got the ball again. We struggled in that game and it was a one score lead late into the 3rd quarter. I've never seen a RB lead his team in rushing with one carry.

If he averages a long one every couple of touches, then he should get it. Spencer Ware has a bunch of 1, 2, 0, 0, 3, 2, 1...without the big bang in there.

I like Michael Ford - I think he goes down too easy.

I'm just saying 3-5 touches to him mixed in would have been nice over the 30 straight tosses that we usually do into a brick wall (though I don't think we did any in the bowl game).

And Shep made our longest catch against Bama last year (like 34 yards or something)that got us our first FG in that game before half (which was huge). He was our leading WR with two catches in that one (which is pretty sad), yet didn't even really play against Bama in the blowout NC game.

I don't think he was a great receiver or anything (and don't really see him as a pro guy), but he did bring some value when they played him. He had some nice plays that helped us and was a different style of player.

This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 12:22 pm
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