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re: Why was Russell Shepard not given a single touch?

Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:37 am to
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69314 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:37 am to
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His runs were 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, -3, 1, 49.


So you're saying he's capable of busting a big play 1 out of every 8 touches?
Posted by kaleidoscope tiger
Member since Aug 2012
370 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:38 am to
for the 2nd bowl game in a row, we have a pitiful offensive output and refuse to even try something different.

shep is something different, why not at least TRY him? at least use all your bullets
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69314 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:39 am to
As Lester said:

quote:

I feel like a broken record when ever this comes up, but Shep was best used as runner out of the backfield. He had several explosive plays, esp as a freshman, but his carries declined every year from there, as they forced him to be a traditional WR. Was he good at that? No, not really.

Carries per year:

FR: 45, 6.2 YPC SOPH: 32, 7.1 YPC JR: 7, 7..4 YPC SR: 20, 8.1 YPC

JC Copeland got more carries than Shep this year. Shep will leave LSU with 104 career carries, for 6.9 YPC. Yes, nearly 7 fricking yards every time he touches the ball. That is a goddamn travesty. He should carry the ball 50-75 times per year. Would have been a great wrinkle for the offense.

I dont know how people can say "oh i just didnt see why he was so highly rated"... Honestly, what are you watching? Kid made many explosive plays lining up in the backfield or coming in motion.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26811 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:41 am to
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maybe because the coaching staff knows a bit more than a bunch of fans who have never coached, played or been a part of a program above jr high


That could definitely be true, but then again those same coaches chose to pass the ball when they needed two yards to win a bowl with a RB averaging 10+ yards per rush.

So maybe they're not the gods of all football knowledge...
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95058 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:42 am to
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Yes, nearly 7 fricking yards every time he touches the ball.


Not every time he touches the ball.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95058 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:43 am to
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So you're saying he's capable of busting a big play 1 out of every 8 touches?


Don't play. You get my point.
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
1342 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:43 am to
WR Shepard's 40 is faster than Landry and Boone. His vertical is higher than obj and Boone. He has talent. He should be playing over boone and wright. He should be the 3rd WR. He could be a slot receiver in certain formations.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95058 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:44 am to
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WR Shepard's 40 is faster than Landry and Boone. He should be the 3rd WR. He could be a slot receiver in certain formations.


So because he runs a 4.3 means he should automatically be in the rotation?

What about route running and the amazing amount of drops.

I don't know about you guys, but I like a WR that drops balls and has trouble with getting separation from DBs.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32952 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:46 am to
Prom, you still think Les is the GOAT?
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
1342 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:46 am to
He is listed at 6'1 195. thats close to 180 for sure. Same frame as landry. Taller than Boone and OBJ. More talent than anyone except obj
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69314 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:46 am to
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Don't play. You get my point


No, i really don't. 7ypc isn't some subjective stat.

the dude fricking averaged 7 ypc and got less touches every year.

Its like Hill averaging 10ypc vs. Clemson then not seeing the ball in the 4th.

Or J. Lee having a tremendous completion pct. then getting benched for Jefferson.

Its a pattern of sitting what works.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:47 am to
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Prominentwon

No use in even trying. He wouldve won a heisman here if it werent for Miles.
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
9386 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:48 am to
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WR Shepard's 40 is faster than Landry and Boone. His vertical is higher than obj and Boone. He has talent. He should be playing over boone and wright. He should be the 3rd WR. He could be a slot receiver in certain formations.


Link? Please dont give us rivals high school rankings.
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
1342 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:48 am to
He has a vert of 41 1/2 inches. Obj is 33 1/2. Best vert on the team for sure you're telling me he couldn't be utilized at ALL?
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79124 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:48 am to
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I don't know about you guys, but I like a WR that drops balls and has trouble with getting separation from DBs.


Then you picked the right team to root for because LSU seemingly has them all.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35271 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:48 am to
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Les Miles, who then offered him a scholarship as a QB.
So either Les can't judge throwing ability or lied to get Shep to come here.



lots of HS qb's suffer that fate. .throwing against HS DB's is very different than SEC DB's... or pick any other major conference.
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
9386 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:49 am to
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More talent than anyone except obj


No
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95058 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Prom, you still think Les is the GOAT?



Yeah, no.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:51 am to
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He is listed at 6'1 195


Which means he's probably closer to 5'10" 180#

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Same frame as landry


Absolutely not

quote:

Taller than Boone and OBJ


I can't speak to this, but I do know that points are not automatically awarded to the tallest team

quote:

More talent than anyone except obj


His performance for 4 years disagrees. Sorry, but he is too small to be a running back and has bricks for hands. Maybe he would have been better used as a CB.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 11:52 am to
quote:

He has a vert of 41 1/2 inches. Obj is 33 1/2. Best vert on the team for sure you're telling me he couldn't be utilized at ALL?


I don't know, ask Johnny Jones.
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