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re: Why the beef with Ben Simmons?

Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:23 pm to
If you got to ask, you know there is issues.
Posted by Cheupique
Breaux Bridge
Member since Oct 2013
2111 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:24 pm to
He’s not a true tiger. Never was never will be.
Posted by GoodOleBoy54
Member since Apr 2015
127 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:29 pm to
He did bash LSU saying he didn’t learn anything
Posted by Shoalwater Cat
Pville
Member since Dec 2017
788 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:33 pm to
lol. as bad as that team was, imagine it without Simmons

How bad..NIT..wait we did not go...Maybe more experience for the real LSU BB players who came back.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34096 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:35 pm to
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Simmons has a major lack of effort and drive for any achievement at LSU. First player I have ever seen DQ's for a POY award in any sport because he did not go to class... any classes. He cost CJJ his job. You need to face the fact that he came to LSU because he knew someone here and he would not have the pressure to go to school. If he had gone to one of the major programs that had more talent he would not have gotten away with that. If you think that I am just dumping on LSU that is BS. Most of this came from Ben's own mouth


That's such horseshite! Do you really think UNC or Kentucky would have really squeezed him to go to class? UNC has completely bullshite classes set up SPECIFICALLY for basketball players (even though the spineless NCAA refused to punish them for their sham curriculum)

It was known before he ever stepped foot on LSU's campus that (A) he was only going to be here one season and (b) he was unanimously expected to be the #1 overall pick in the 2016 NBA draft. Jones knew EXACTLY what he was getting when he signed Simmons, so take the woe-is-me he cost CJJ his job bullshite somewhere else.

All Simmons did in his only year was put up overall numbers not seen at LSU, or even the NCAA in decades. Compared to the 20+ years that preceeded Simmons' one year on campus he averaged more points per game than EVERYONE except Marcus Thornton (2009); More rebounds per game than EVERYONE except Shaq and more assist per game than anyone since Randy Livingston. And Simmons did it ALL in the same season.

He carried a Johnny Jones led LSU team that played as close to a YMCA pick-up style that you will see in major college basketball. I've said it a million times on here, but Simmons completely lived up the hype. The problem is so did Johnny Jones. Jones may have been the ONLY coach in America who could have kept that team out of the NCAA tournament. If not for Simmons, LSU doesn't have close to the record they finshed with that season. He had 37/14/7 to allow LSU to escape vs. North Florida. He had 34/14/4 to carry LSU to an upset win vs. Vandy. He had 21/21/7 vs. Marquette to even give LSU a prayer in that game.

Simmons had no connection to LSU other than his Godfather. He knew this was just a quick stop before going to the NBA, so no, he didn't develop any really love or passion for LSU. Nonetheless, he, individually, gave his LSU team MORE than enough production. But it's really hard to win when you have a coach who doesn't actually know how to coach and forgets that you actually have to play both ends of the court.

All Simmons' time at LSU did was create doubt, that otherwise wouldn't have existed if he had played for a better coach, as to whether or not he should be a lock for the #1 pick. As stands though I think Philly is ok with their choice considering Simmons is still the odd-on favorite to win ROY this season.

Simmons definitely had some issues and didn't do LSU a lot of favor in the PR department with some of his comments. But if you're assigning blame for the colossal failure of that season Simmons is WAAAY down the list. What cost Jones his job was the failure of the Simmons' season exposing the fact that Jones should have NEVER had the job in the first place.


Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:47 pm to
Heard from a few people he's nice enough in person. Not saying he can't be both
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23323 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:53 pm to
He challenged Kyle Lowry to meet him in the tunnel to fight after they got ejected. Lowry showed up; Simmons bitched out and hid in the locker room. Then after that Simmons told the media he "didn't play" and wasn't going to "take any shite from anyone". When asked by the media about the episode Lowry said "I don't know...I guess he thinks he's somebody". That one little episode really sums up what it means to be Ben Simmons.

He's good at basketball though so good for him. He's also a douche of a person.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:56 pm to
He’s a great kid who didn’t learn anything from a terrible coach. He was awesome to watch. He is a tiger and has been great as a rookie. Geaux Ben. One of the best to wear the purple and gold.
Posted by GatorRaiderBait
Member since Oct 2017
582 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:02 pm to
You're really mad aren't you.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17448 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

lol. as bad as that team was, imagine it without Simmons


Well the two years prior we made postseason and won 20 games. Didn’t do either his year or the year after.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7948 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:25 pm to
He came to LSU cause A) he was forced to play a year in college and B) his godfather was a coach here. Did he play well here? Yep. But don’t tell me I have to love the guy. I just don’t care about him...means nothing to me
Posted by WAR TIGER
Death Valley
Member since Oct 2005
4269 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:31 pm to
No heart.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18888 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:36 pm to
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A bunch of roughneck plant workers feel personally slighted that he spoke the truth about his tenure at LSU being a waste of time. He put up historically good numbers but it's somehow his fault LSU didn't make the postseason when he was her


What’s your point exactly?

Why would LSU fans celebrate a player who said his time at LSU was a waste? It’s fine he feels that way...but when you say that out loud you’re going to lose support from LSU fans.

ETA: downvotes and 0 responses as usual...
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 11:22 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38885 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:52 pm to
My god how many times do we have to have this thread
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:16 pm to
He Is trash like you. Only difference is, he gets paid while you hang on his junk and talk great about him. He didn't give two Fs about LSU , never did
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 1:46 am to
Damn, how did you manage to remove yourself from Simmons dick long enough to post that wall of total bullshite.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
40572 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:13 am to
You won’t answer but I’ll try anyways.

What’s bullshite about what he said?
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 5:32 am to
It was a wall of bullshite to blame Jones and anything else but Simmons and his garbage attitude for the bad season.
Now go join your pal and smoke on Simmons pole.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
6497 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:03 am to
Same people hate on Leonard Fournette, Tiger Fans hating Tiger Players. The Hate in unfathomable.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:16 am to
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Why the beef with Ben Simmons?


Can an LSU fan not appreciate his game and his stats while here while simultaneously also not really thinking much of him in terms of being some All-Time Tiger legend based solely on what he himself has said about LSU since leaving?

Tremendous talent and he's on my starting 5 list if I have to put an all-time LSU team together to play anyone...but that doesn't mean I like him as an LSU Tiger the way I do far less talented guys who actually seemed to want to be here and enjoyed there time.

Don't have beef with him at all...just other than being a phenomenal player I don't really think of him as a Tiger, since he doesn't either.
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