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re: Why some in the NFL think Joe Burrow is the greatest QB prospect ever

Posted on 7/2/20 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by bobad
Eunice, LA
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 2:30 pm to
Been following NFL and college for many, many years, and have never seen such a can't=miss prospect. I have seen many, and about half never lived up to expectations. It's very hard to do.

Joe's intangibles are very close to his accomplishments and skills. His very first game, I could see it in him. He's mentally tough like Brady, accurate like Brees, also has a feel for the pocket like Brees.

I think he's the real deal. I hope his coach knows what he has, but doesn't let Joe get the big head. That will get you killed in the NFL.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 2:53 pm to
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Joe thru 2 seasons: 22-28 226yards 2 TD 0 INT 12car 58 yds 1 TD Trevor Lawrence thru 2 seasons: 6945yds, 66td 12int 163car 740yards 10 TD


Joe Burrow’s best season

60 TDS 6 Int

Lawrence’s Best season

36 TDS 8 Int.

So again, scouts hoping Lawrence can be as productive as Joe.

But that’s still projection and speculation

Joe actually was that good.



Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:10 pm to
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You’re making the assumption that a player on is great for a 20 year old is going To be great for a 25-30 year old.




and you make the assumption that a 23yr old is going to be a great 25-30 year old.


Again, why do you keep applying this only to Lawrence?


oh yeah, i know why!

1. You dont know what a prospect is

2. You are being an LSU homer.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:15 pm to
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Joe Burrow’s best season

60 TDS 6 Int

Lawrence’s Best season

36 TDS 8 Int.

So again, scouts hoping Lawrence can be as productive as Joe.



No, thats not what scouts' hope.

Scouts don't hope that a QB shows promise until his 5th year at 23 years old.

You still dont know what a prospect is.

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:24 pm to
Why did he get drafted at # 1 then????????
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:26 pm to
cause he was the best player in the draft and in college football last year
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202635 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:30 pm to
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cause he was the best player in the draft and in college football last year


Well come on now...You can do better than that......
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:34 pm to
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You still dont know what a prospect is.



You keep saying that, but now I’m not sure what you know.

quote:

No, thats not what scouts' hope.

Scouts don't hope that a QB shows promise until his 5th year at 23 years old.


Answer this T or F: Lawrence has never been as good as Joe was last year.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:41 pm to
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cause he was the best player in the draft and in college football last year



HOW is that possible?

Justin Hebert is taller, bigger, has a bigger arm, has bigger hands. Has more career TDs. Had way more TDS when he was 19 and 20.

how can joe be the best player in the draft when Hebert exists?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:42 pm to
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Answer this T or F: Lawrence has never been as good as Joe was last year.



No one has ever been as good as joe was last year.

That doesn't make him the best prospect.

Now all of a sudden you dont want to factor in age?



You still dont know what a prospect is.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:43 pm to
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HOW is that possible?

Justin Hebert is taller, bigger, has a bigger arm, has bigger hands. Has more career TDs. Had way more TDS when he was 19 and 20.

how can joe be the best player in the draft when Hebert exists?




Damn. You legitimately are that simple minded lol.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:50 pm to
You’re so fricking stubborn.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 3:51 pm to
We can factor in age but I KNOW Joe is that good at 22. I just don’t think the “he was better at 18” factor is as important.

If you’re a late bloomer who cares, as long as you bloom.

I dont Know how good Lawrence will be at 22. I have To speculate.

That’s a factor. Trevor Lawrence has a lot of Potential, but at the same time he isnt as good and may not be.

Older prospects may not need as
Much development. You’re not going to be halfway through their rookie deep by the time they start producing for you.



This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 4:08 pm to
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We can factor in age but I KNOW Joe is that good at 22. I just don’t think the “he was better at 18” factor is as important.

If you’re a late bloomer who cares, as long as you bloom.

I dont Know how good Lawrence will be at 22. I have To speculate.

That’s a factor. Trevor Lawrence has a lot of Potential, but at the same time he isnt as good and may not be.

Older prospects may not need as
Much development. You’re not going to be halfway through their rookie deep by the time they start producing for you.



This is not how scouts look at prospects. A 1yr producer in his 5th year, at 22–23, raises eyebrows. You call it a late bloomer, scouts call it enigmatic.

All of This is made up stuff by you to put burrow in a box, and used to glorify his late blossom.

I can’t really emphasize that anymore. I’m not stubborn, I know what a prospect is. And you don’t.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 4:28 pm to
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This is not how scouts look at prospects


Which is why Joe didn’t go #1 overall. Oh fricking wait.

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1yr producer in his 5th year, at 22–23, raises eyebrows. You call it a late bloomer, scouts call it enigmatic.


Which is why they look at other factors.

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All of This is made up stuff by you to put burrow in a box, and used to glorify his late blossom.


He was first overall. I’m not making anything up.

Scouts agree he was fricking good.

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I can’t really emphasize that anymore. I’m not stubborn, I know what a prospect is. And you don’t.


Do the Bengals?

Shut the frick up.

You’re just a fricking pretentious dipshit.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 4:34 pm to
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Which is why Joe didn’t go #1 overall. Oh fricking wait.



That doesn’t make him the best QB prospect ever

What are you missing here? I’m not trying to be an arse but damn dude you are not smart at all.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 4:36 pm to
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That doesn’t make him the best QB prospect ever


Not a bad Start.

What it tells me is that the NFL cares a lot
More about what I’m saying that what you’re saying.

quote:

What are you missing here? I’m not trying to be an arse but damn dude you are not smart at all.


Self-awareness.

You’re a huge arse.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 4:39 pm to
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What it tells me is that the NFL cares a lot
More about what I’m saying that what you’re saying


You don’t actually understand what I am saying, so how can you say that
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 4:40 pm to
Please explain what you mean by prospect.

Because it’s CLEARLY different than what I think.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 4:42 pm to
You know you clicked on a thread about the best QB prospect ever, right?

Not just 2019, right?
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