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re: Why some in the NFL think Joe Burrow is the greatest QB prospect ever
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:01 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:01 am to Lester Earl
Lawrence needs take another step forward or Fields is going to pass him up next year.
Lawrence has been good for his age, but never been the best QB in the country. He plays in a week conference and last year he was close to as good as he was in the regular season when he played real defenses.
Justin Fields threw Amore TDs and Less ain’t. So did Sam Howell (in the same conference).
What if he goes out and takes a slight step back.
Throws like 32 TDS 10 Int 3200 yards 65%
That’s a great season But it’s the same season he had as a freshmen and a worse season than he has a sophomore.
I mean Do you ask yourself if this guy peaked as a college freshmen?
What if Fields throws 3200 yards and 45 TDS? While rushing for a bunch more?
Lawrence has been good for his age, but never been the best QB in the country. He plays in a week conference and last year he was close to as good as he was in the regular season when he played real defenses.
Justin Fields threw Amore TDs and Less ain’t. So did Sam Howell (in the same conference).
What if he goes out and takes a slight step back.
Throws like 32 TDS 10 Int 3200 yards 65%
That’s a great season But it’s the same season he had as a freshmen and a worse season than he has a sophomore.
I mean Do you ask yourself if this guy peaked as a college freshmen?
What if Fields throws 3200 yards and 45 TDS? While rushing for a bunch more?
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 11:06 am
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:06 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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Burrow had the best season in The history of college football.
I absolutely agree.
That doesn’t make him the best prospect
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:17 am to SammyTiger
Sammy, everything you just said comes from an LSU homer point of view.
Understand that a neutral grading party Would never say “well what if this guy, who can’t even legally drink yet, peaked as a freshman”
that is you defending Burrow.
Justin fields looks to be an excellent prospect too. Not sure what he has to do with this but yea sure he could be better than Lawrence
Understand that a neutral grading party Would never say “well what if this guy, who can’t even legally drink yet, peaked as a freshman”
that is you defending Burrow.
Justin fields looks to be an excellent prospect too. Not sure what he has to do with this but yea sure he could be better than Lawrence
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:17 am to Lester Earl
Stats don’t mean everything dude.
It’s his instincts and intangibles that catch my eye. And most NFL scouts.......
It’s his instincts and intangibles that catch my eye. And most NFL scouts.......
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:23 am to dukke v
Do you think joe Burrow is the best qb prospect in football history, pj?
Ps I haven’t said shite about his stats
He broke colt Brennan’s TD record, where is he?
Ps I haven’t said shite about his stats
He broke colt Brennan’s TD record, where is he?
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:24 am to Lester Earl
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Sammy, everything you just said comes from an LSU homer point of view.
If Lawrence and Fields put up the same numbers next year tell me why Lawrencenis the best QB in that class.
The point is you’re arguing nonstop for Lawrence but I do t think you’d make the same argument for Fields.
Because Lawrence is more persona
And there is no LSU bias to the fact that he completes 51% of his passes in the playoffs last year.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 11:26 am
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:28 am to Lester Earl
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He broke colt Brennan’s TD record, where is he?
Colt Brennan played in the WAC and looked like a WAC QB when he got murdered by UGA.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:42 am to SammyTiger
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If Lawrence and Fields put up the same numbers next year tell me why Lawrencenis the best QB in that class.
I dont care who the best QB in the class is. I dont have anything against Justin Fields.
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The point is you’re arguing nonstop for Lawrence but I do t think you’d make the same argument for Fields.
Well, right now, Lawrence is a better QB prospect than Fields is. And better QB prospect than Burrow is.
Fields could be too, but i dont think he is yet.
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And there is no LSU bias to the fact that he completes 51% of his passes in the playoffs last year.
Burrow completed 57% his whole first year as a starter lol. In what was his 4th college season.
Joe Burrow held a clipboard for 3 years.
What the frick are you even talking about.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:44 am to SammyTiger
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And there is no LSU bias
What i am saying is perfectly clear to anyone that isn't an LSU homer.
Do you really think Joe Burrow is the best QB prospect ever?
Why wont anyone directly answer this?
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:48 am to Lester Earl
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Burrow completed 57% his whole first year as a starter lol. In what was his 4th college season.
And if you’re too stupid to understand why you may knock him for that, but realistically most NFL teams have to hope they have a better offensive system than 2018 LSU
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:52 am to Lester Earl
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Do you really think Joe Burrow is the best QB prospect ever?
Yes.
He just showed he can perform better than ANYONE EVER. You can argue about ceiling all you want the facts are no one has ever played as well as him at the college level. That’s a STRONG arguement that he’s better than everyone who played in college.
Every prospect has question marks but Joe doesn’t have to answer
“Can he throw 60 TDsnin a season against the best defenses in the country?”
“can he be the clear and obvious best in his field”
He also is a lot closer to answering “how will he translate to a pro offense”
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:55 am to Lester Earl
No he is not, but as of right now he is light years ahead of TL and Tua because of everything BUT stats....... IMO Elway was the best prospect ever. Stanford was not that good back then BUT there was a reason he was picked where he was..... and Peyton Manning’s only drawback is that he could not beat Florida, but instead of just looking at stats, NFL scouts and teams look at many other things in determining who they will pick.....
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:55 am to SammyTiger
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And if you’re too stupid to understand why you may knock him for that,
lol Ive been a Burrow champion since day one against people like you who thought he was Danny Etling.
I fully understand what went on.
It doesn't change the fact that he was a 6th-7th Rd graded QB after 2018 because of his body of work up until that point.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:56 am to Lester Earl
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lol Ive been a Burrow champion since day one against people like you who thought he was Danny Etling.
I sorta ment “you” as a general placeholder.
I’m sorry that came across as a personal attack.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 11:58 am
Posted on 7/2/20 at 11:59 am to SammyTiger
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He just showed he can perform better than ANYONE EVER.
lol oh damn. You went there. Haha
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You can argue about ceiling all you want
That's how prospects are graded you dope
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Every prospect has question marks but Joe doesn’t have to answer
“Can he throw 60 TDsnin a season against the best defenses in the country?”
“can he be the clear and obvious best in his field”
As the oldest player on the field most games
...with 4-5 potential early round weapons at skill positions
....with a whole offensive line that will get drafted...
...with 9" hands that history shows are a detriment against good quarterbacking
Like I said, you are being a homer.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:02 pm to dukke v
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No he is not,
Ok, then scram.
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but as of right now he is light years ahead of TL and Tua because of everything BUT stats.
He can't be light years ahead of them.
Tua was the heisman runner up as a Soph and Lawrence got heisman votes as a sophomore
Joe Burrow wasn't a good QB until his 5th year.
You make zero sense.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:14 pm to Lester Earl
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As the oldest player on the field most games
So are most QBs in the NFL.
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.with 4-5 potential early round weapons at skill positions ....with a whole offensive line that will get drafted...
QB play pumped a lot of their stock.
And let’s not pretend Lawrence is playing with Scrubs.
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..with 9" hands that history shows are a detriment against good quarterbacking
Not actually true.
Unless you want to argue Winston throws a lot of interceptions because of his hands.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:17 pm to Lester Earl
After 2018 he was a serious reach. But what he was able to do as a true field general last Season means a ton........
Posted on 7/2/20 at 12:45 pm to SammyTiger
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So are most QBs in the NFL.
You dont understand what a prospect is. Even after 5 pages of this nonsense.
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Not actually true.
Unless you want to argue Winston throws a lot of interceptions because of his hands.
Yes, actually true.
The list is short for good QBs with 9" hands or smaller.
Guys like Romo and Michael Vick. Both who ended up having fumbling problems.
There's guys like Jared Goff and Ryan Tannehill, both who are passable, i guess.
The data drawn from this very large sample size alone would erase him from being the best QB prospect ever. Not even getting into other things like his age.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 1:10 pm to Lester Earl
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You dont understand what a prospect is. Even after 5 pages of this nonsense.
It’s just not that important a factor.
You can argue he’s so much more mature than the other players, but physically and mentally age isn’t always an indicator of that. LF7 was more mature physically at 18 than most RBs will ever be.
And of course age doesn’t guarantee mental maturity either.
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Yes, actually true. The list is short for good QBs with 9" hands or smaller. Guys like Romo and Michael Vick. Both who ended up having fumbling problems. There's guys like Jared Goff and Ryan Tannehill, both who are passable, i guess. The data drawn from this very large sample size alone would erase him from being the best QB prospect ever. Not even getting into other things like his age.
Except they are not MORE fumble prone than QBs with big hands.
Brett Favre has the most career Fumbles in NFL History.
He has 44 more fumbles than Tom Brady and his hands are hands are over announce wider.
Flacco has 9.6 inch hands and fumbles
More per season than Michael Vick who actually ran with the ball.
Tony Romo averaged less aumbles per season than Russell Wilson and Drew Brees.
Fake facts. The actual data shows it’s more myth than truth. Before Drew Brees how man 6’ QBs were in the NFL? Now you have Hyler Murray going #1
Realistically, if your getting blindsided while holding a football like someone trying to pass a football it’s going to come out.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 1:24 pm
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