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re: Why Nuss's lackluster completion% vs Ole Miss is misleading about his overall efficiency
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:34 pm to TN Tygah
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:34 pm to TN Tygah
The one thing Nuss had been doing especially in the first part of the game was not stepping up in the pocket in certain situations.maybe that has something to do with the play of Chester so far as there has been plenty of pressure from the middle of the line. Am example is the first interception which I believe he threw off of Campbells helmet unless it was tipped. Go back and freeze it once he got the snap.He had pressure from the left and right sides. But there were 3 Oline blocking the NG. If he steps up in the pocket he either buys time for a receiver to break open or he has an alley to the left with nothing but green in front of him. Instead he backpedaled to buy time which gave the 2 end rushers better angles to get to him and he ends up throwing the interception. In the 2nd half he starts stepping up in the pocket and running and moving to keep the play alive. There was another play where he got pressure from the right side and started sprinting to his left with 15 yds of grass in front of him. He had a receiver breaking right with him about 15 yds downfield and he threw it but there was good coverage and the ball ends up being incomplete at the sideline. If he runs he gets the first down and can run out of bounds. yes he had an opportunity to complete the pass to the receiver but the EASY play was to run it. Hopefully watching more film of this will improve his pocket awareness and he will start taking advantage .
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:35 pm to Superfluous Tiger
There wasn't 30 drops.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:37 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Another thing that may have been in play was for whatever reason Nuss was pushing the ball downfield.
This is what the unknowledgeable retards dont get. We threw more downfield passes (20+ yards) than we ever have.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:38 pm to LifeAquatic
If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There are some who just want Nuss replaced
Are there though? Really?
Really?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:14 pm to LifeAquatic
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As a point of comparison, let's use Joe Burrow's 2019 performance against Auburn. Both were mid-season games, at home, against top-10 teams with elite defenses whose best unit was the DL. In that game, Burrow was 32/42 (76%!) for 321yds 1TD/1INT. Nuss, against Ole Miss, was 22/51 (43%) for 337yds 3TD/2INT. So burrow was much much better, right? Well...
Burrow didn't really have a bad game vs Auburn. We just couldn't score in the red zone. It was a clinic in dominating in the box score but not on the score board.
Nuss had a better game then the stats show but the offense was pretty painful to watch. He kept trying to push the ball downfield when it wasn't there. he needs to look to Taylor and the Running backs more, The running back swing pass was open all night with Ole Miss safeties playing deep
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:15 pm to AlxTgr
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I hope this is because you didn't actually read the post
What is the excuse for not completing passes to open WRs?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:16 pm to LifeAquatic
No. Apples and oranges. You don’t remember Auburn’s two top round draft pick D lineman Burrow had living in his grill all game?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:16 pm to LifeAquatic
You don’t seem to factor in the need to move the chains with first downs into this. Say you run once, you basically need to complete at least one of two passes to get a first down. Would you rather go 2 for 4 for 20 yards and two first downs and start with a fresh first down, or 1 for 4 for 30 yards but you have to punt?
You aren’t going to sustain drives regularly completing less than half your passes, especially when your run game is not good.
You aren’t going to sustain drives regularly completing less than half your passes, especially when your run game is not good.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:21 pm to LifeAquatic
He had a bad game, leading up the the 4th quarter. However, mentally tough qbs overcome adversity, and get the job done when it counts. I was really impressed by his poise in the last 15 minutes.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:23 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I know of no one making any excuses. My best guesses would be:
What is the excuse for not completing passes to open WRs?
Didn't see them
Made poor throw
Threw at wrong time
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:05 pm to BadatBourre
quote:I would personally blame the lack of a running game if we had lost. They were dropping both safeties and we still could not run. If they can play 7-8 guys in coverage without having to worry about a running game, that makes passing lanes significantly tighter and would naturally result in not a great completion %. I would still say Nuss had a bad game had he not finished the way he did, but to take his stats completely out of the context of the game wouldn't really be fair.
Thats TERRIBLE. If we lost this game, we would point to this being why.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:20 pm to Lester Earl
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-Lets not ever compare Nuss to Burrow
Yeah! Because comparing their stats through each's first seven games is embarrassing for the wrong guy.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:25 pm to LifeAquatic
I will not hear any arguments that what Nuss did Saturday was better than something Burrow did in 2019. Stop.
It's pretty simple, he was awful for the majority of the game and looked good at the end.
He's a good QB, but Saturday was a bad night. Good QB's have bad nights, it happens. Fortunately LSU still got the win, which is really all that matters.
It's pretty simple, he was awful for the majority of the game and looked good at the end.
He's a good QB, but Saturday was a bad night. Good QB's have bad nights, it happens. Fortunately LSU still got the win, which is really all that matters.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:40 pm to LifeAquatic
The “if we would’ve lost it was his fault” narrative is a new one on the Rant. People are inventing new ways to bash Nuss.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There are some who just want Nuss replaced with a "running quarterback" and will never accept the fact that Nuss is actually within striking distance of the Heisman.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:19 pm to Gus007
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Yeah! Because comparing their stats through each's first seven games is embarrassing for the wrong guy.
Embarrassing because one guy is throwing 40% more than the other & wracking up a ton of counting stats? Lol yea makes sense
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:20 pm to iamandykeim
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They were dropping both safeties
So why did Nuss continue to chunk it deep into double coverage?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 5:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Perhaps the unknowledgeable retards are questioning why Nuss was throwing deep so often.quote:This is what the unknowledgeable retards dont get. We threw more downfield passes (20+ yards) than we ever have.
Another thing that may have been in play was for whatever reason Nuss was pushing the ball downfield.
Perhaps Nuss was locking onto one target all night.
He clearly was NOT reading coverages.
He pushed the ball deep when receivers on shorter routes were open. That is indisputable.
The 23-yard touchdown pass to Anderson on 4th and five was a TERRIFIC pass but not the BEST choice. Zavion Thomas was wide open for the first down and likely could have scored.
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