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re: Why is Media So Insistent That USC Won 2003 Championship
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:03 pm to Scientific73
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:03 pm to Scientific73
The media is a liberal outlet that know the majority of the people in Louisiana are hard working tax paying conservatives.
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:09 pm to Scientific73
Wasn't it the AP Championship that they were awarded? If so, it is a press association and therefore the media is trying to be relevant in college football championship talk as long as possible.
Everyone knows the BCS was founded to name the national championship, and therefore AP was irrelevant.
Everyone knows the BCS was founded to name the national championship, and therefore AP was irrelevant.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:18 pm to Scientific73
Feels like tRant circa 2004...
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:19 pm to Shiftyplus1
They beat Auburn by the same amount LSU did that year, only it was on the road vs LSU doing it at home.
They also beat Arizona by the same amount LSU did, with both games in Tucson.
LSU vs USC that year would have been very close.
They also beat Arizona by the same amount LSU did, with both games in Tucson.
LSU vs USC that year would have been very close.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:21 pm to lsu2006
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Also, stop trying to be a victim. Sad
Don’t say that! You’ll take away the identity for about 60% of LSU fans on this board. Don’t you know no one gives LSU respect? No one!!!
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:38 pm to Shiftyplus1
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The media gave us NO chance to beat them. And LSU absolutely creamed them.
Neither of these statements is true. OU got absolutely blasted the week before they played us. I think most thought it would be a good game. And it was.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:44 pm to jacksajester
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Because USC is a bigger brand
You couldn’t be more wrong. At the moment LSU has the bigger brand by a fricking long shot.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:48 pm to Scientific73
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Why is Media So Insistent That USC Won 2003 Championship
Because the media gave it to USC. The media wanted to see Oklahoma play USC NOT LSU vs. Oklahoma in the BCS Championship game. Back then, it was 1-game, winner take all. The AP voted USC #1 even after we beat Oklahoma. We won the BCS, which is the actual title. The AP #1 became just a popularity contest.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:49 pm to lsu2006
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Fact of the matter is that under that system, the AP also named a champion and they voted for USC.
AP was no longer the system for determining champions.
It's less valid than LSU claiming a championship for 2011.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:52 pm to wadewilson
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AP was no longer the system for determining champions.
Well they named a champion. No one was arrested for it, and I'm pretty certain it happened. They were often called Mythical National Championships prior to the playoff for a reason.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:56 pm to Scientific73
Final AP Poll (AKA "The Media") before the BCS CG:
1. USC
2. LSU
3. OK (The team that got frickING destroyed in the Big 12 CG)
Final AP after the BCS CG:
1. USC
2. LSU
3. OK
QED
1. USC
2. LSU
3. OK (The team that got frickING destroyed in the Big 12 CG)
Final AP after the BCS CG:
1. USC
2. LSU
3. OK
QED
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:58 pm to financetiger38
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Fact of the matter is the system that everyone agreed to and played under to decide the national champion was the BCS. Just because it didn’t go the media darlings way doesn’t mean the AP gets to decide who gets the title. That AP “title” is literally meaningless under the system everyone agreed to
You are wrong because the system everyone agreed to play in at that time did allow for the AP to decide who their national championship was.
Also LSU gets plenty of recognition for winning that title.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 1:01 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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I’ll never forget winning in 07 and the AP guy presenting us the trophy at the celebration in Tiger Stadium and Boo’s raining down on him. frick the AP
Lol this did not happen
Posted on 7/28/23 at 1:08 pm to wadewilson
quote:I once read that, in it’s inception, the AP was started TO CREATE controversy/interest in CFB.
AP was no longer the system for determining champions.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/28/23 at 1:18 pm to Shiftyplus1
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OU was considered a MONSTER that year.
This is true. They destroyed teams, and media were already saying they could be the greatest team ever if they ran the table.
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The media gave us NO chance to beat them.
Not true. Not after they got blasted in the Big XII CG. In fact, a lot of media believed that the Superdome alone would give LSU an advantage.
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USC would have been annihilated. They had ONE top 25 win that year. A weak as baby shite schedule. They never saw anyone close to LSU's level that year.
Pac 10 teams had a reputation for being weak in the early 2000s, and the BCS computers hated them for whatever reason, but in retrospect, they were stronger than they got credit for.
In 2000, everyone bitched about FSU going to the NCG instead of Miami. However, Washington only had one loss, beat Miami head-to-head, and smacked around Drew Brees and Purdue in the Rose Bowl. That was also the same year Oregon State had one loss (to Washington), and murdered Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl.
In 2001, people were making arguments for 2-loss Colorado to play in the NCG instead of Nebraska. However, Oregon only had one loss, and dominated CU in the Fiesta Bowl.
In 2002, Iowa was 11-1, #3 in the BCS, and B1G champs, but 2-loss USC beat them by 3 TDs in the Orange Bowl.
Basically, USC would have been a tough opponent in 2003, despite what you think their schedule proves. I firmly believe that AP title was more of a statement against the BCS than LSU.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 1:20 pm to wadewilson
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AP was no longer the system for determining champions.
The AP was still a system that named A national champion at the time. You do know that the AP poll and the Coach’s poll still names a national champion every year and gives out a their trophies right? It’s the same thing it’s just that they always go with who wins the CFP.
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It's less valid than LSU claiming a championship for 2011.
There was actually talk going into the national championship that if it was a close Bama win that the AP would go against the BCS polls and name LSU number 1.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 1:24 pm to ManBearTiger
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I’ll never forget winning in 07 and the AP guy presenting us the trophy at the celebration in Tiger Stadium and Boo’s raining down on him. frick the AP
Lol this did not happen
He might be thinking of the 2003 celebration when a representative from the AP presented Saban with their Coach of the Year award. There was definitely a smattering of boos for that.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 1:29 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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The issue I have always had is that before the season AP agreed to be a part of the BCS and award their trophy accordingly.
No, they didn’t.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 1:29 pm to Shiftyplus1
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They went to the BCS because everyone was tired of the AP journalists picking who the champ was. So everyone agreed that the BCS NCG would determine who the season's champion was. But the moment the East and West coast media got upset that their darling USC Trojans weren't in the game, they decided that there could be co-champions and the AP Poll counted after all.
The AP was initially a factor in the BCS standings. I think at that time, like the coaches poll, they would have been obligated to crown whoever won the BCS national championship game. At some point, however, they removed themselves from this equation. This left them free to crown whoever they wanted.
The problem is USC should have been in the BCS game against us. They were 1 in the AP, 1 in the Coaches but 3 in the BCS. Oklahoma essentially got in over them because of the computers. But they (the media) also spent all season talking about how OU was clearly the best team in the country week in and week out and they could afford to lose a game and still go. Then OU loss to K-State and it was put up or shut up time.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 1:53 pm to DamnStrong1860
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The AP was initially a factor in the BCS standings. I think at that time, like the coaches poll, they would have been obligated to crown whoever won the BCS national championship game. At some point, however, they removed themselves from this equation. This left them free to crown whoever they wanted.
The AP poll was definitely part of the BCS formula, but I'm not sure they were obligated to vote along with whatever happened in the national championship game like the Coaches Poll was. The AP didn't remove themselves from the BCS until after the 2004 season.
Even with the Coaches Poll obligation, I remember there being a huge uproar because three coaches, as Chris Fowler put it, "bucked the system" and still voted USC #1. IIRC Lou Holtz was one of them, which was odd since we pummeled South Carolina at Williams-Brice that year.
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