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re: Why does everyone assume Brennan is next in line?

Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:21 am to
Posted by Merlin08
Member since Apr 2012
1760 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:21 am to
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By the time Narcisse arrives at LSU in January, he'll be about 6'3/235. When you see the two standing next to each other, one looks like a man and the other looks like a kid.


Except 1 has had not 1 but 2 KNEE injuries...1 in each knee soooo Ill take the brand new truck over the fancy AUDI with major tire trouble! However I will say I do not believe this guy


will just give way to this guy


while this guy

is recovering and when he returns we will have the best QB depth since we had Tyler,Nall,Booty,Davey!
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 9:11 am
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:23 am to
Morning, baw.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42044 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:29 am to
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Football IQ is as important


Actually, though, I think the guys who saw also thought he did have football IQ. Lot of potential, the problem a lot of guys in his position have are bad habits they have never had to address because they are so much better than everyone else on the field they still get by.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4121 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:31 am to
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When you see the two standing next to each other, one looks like a man and the other looks like a kid.



the man's on crutches
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:40 am to
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Please stop harping on this. It shows you're just tying to force your strawman argument. Jennings was absolutely dual threat.


In what capacity? He could run better than Mettenburger but he was listed as a pro-style QB elsewhere because that's what he was. Jennings was an Elite 11 Finals QB. He ran when necessary, but that wasn't his game.

Posted by G I Jeaux
off duty
Member since Aug 2009
2478 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:42 am to
Bama 40 In the house, upsetting you all.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4701 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:43 am to
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By the time Narcisse arrives at LSU in January, he'll be about 6'3/235. When you see the two standing next to each other, one looks like a man and the other looks like a kid.


I don't think any one would argue that Narcisse is probably a better athlete than Brennan. What I look at is how this offense (assuming Miles will still be here) is built and what has worked in the past for LSU. Brennan is noted as a pocket passer with a high IQ, good accuracy, and decent mobility. He moves in the pocket well and makes the right reads based on what the defense gives him. I believe Trent Dilfer said at the Elite 11 finals he looked like the best QB on the field at times but then would turn around and make a mistake. He also noted that when Brennan made a mistake and it was corrected by coaching, he didn't make it again.

This offense isn't built for dual threat QBs, its been proven time and time again by Miles trying to force a QB to fit the offense rather than finding a QB that already fits it. We're seeing that now with BH and DE. Narcisse is gifted, no question about it, but he struggles with accuracy from the pocket and has played out of spread offense at St James. Sound familiar? Brennan on the other hand plays out of pro-style offense, although it is extremely shotgun heavy. Also, if you've done some research on Brennan, his coach is a badass. Some of the stuff this kid does in preparation is insanity. Check out his blind fold drill if you get a chance.

Long story short, Brennan fits what LSU wants to do offensively. Narcisse is a gifted athlete that just doesn't fit. I want them both because hey, you never know. But at this point, I think Brennan is the future.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 8:46 am
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8208 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:44 am to
Mr. Lindsey Scott says he has next
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4091 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:45 am to
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I think that Narcisse is the better prospect. He's bigger, stronger, and more mobile. Is it just due to his injuries, and the poor history with dual-threat QBs at LSU?


These were some of the same assumptions made about Harris. It will likely come down to who is the most polished coming out of high school and who moves the offense more effectively and goes through progressions the best. So far, the dual threats that have been brought in have been quite raw in these areas. Maybe Narcisse is different.

If there's one thing that is apparent, it's really up to the QB as to how much work they put in and where the focus of that work comes from. IMO, it needs to be in the playbook, situational awareness, and learning where the 2nd, 3rd reads, etc. are and the patience to go through those progressions to help the offense be all it can be.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107411 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:45 am to
It all depends on what offense the new head coach and OC bring to the table
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94677 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:47 am to
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I say this all the time...Football IQ is as important as athleticism playing qb in college.


That's why I don't even care about either of these 2 kids right now because it'll be a while before either of them play.

For me, I'm really looking forward to seeing Lindsey Scott play. I understand his height may be a hurdle, but from the reports of this kid being as smart and athletic he is, tie in his strong arm and feet....I think if Etling stays at QB is successful and holds on to the job this year and next and Scott takes the job and holds onto it until his Sr year, Narcisse or Brennan won't have a job until 2021.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14306 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:48 am to
The SEC is Big Boy football.

We need Big Boy QB's.

Mauck. Flynn. Mettenberger. Etling. Brennan.

We need real QB's that can process information quickly, go through progressions, read defenses, efficiently & effectively distribute the ball to the WR's/RB's/TE's, learn the playbook and manage the Offense. (From all reports, Brennan is already about as polished as they come doing all this at the high school level)

We don't need "Athletes that can run real Fast" playing the QB position. Just been there and done that. Many of you on here just don't "Get It."
Posted by AndUhIUh
Member since Sep 2016
121 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:52 am to
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He's bigger, stronger, and more mobile

Like Brandon Harris before he got here?

Next year, Etling will probably be our QB. The year after that, if Miles is STILL here, my guess is Brennan would be the better prospect because Miles has had overwhelmingly more success with a pocket-passer esque QB. If we get someone like Herman in here, Narcisse may be the better option. Two years is too far down the road, there will probably be a lot of coaching changes before then.
Posted by bigtig
Member since Aug 2005
972 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:58 am to
We need both of these young men and hopefully they can both excel at QB. One will win out but they seem to know and accept that they will be in for a fight but it is all good fighting for a starting job
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:02 am to
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Someone like Narcisse is precisely what Herman has flourished with at the QB position.


Why'd you have to spill the beans? Now they will be against Herman as a coaching candidate. "He uses 'dual threat' QBs? Well then we don't want him!" ASSinine to the 10th power.
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:07 am to
IF we can get both to campus, let them compete with Etling, Harris (if here), Scott and McMillan and may the best man win.

If both make it to campus, we'll be in a good position as far as quarterbacks go for years to come.

This is one of the reasons I'm reluctant to jump on the 'fire Miles' bandwagon.

It looks like he's finally got our program set at QB until 2021, and if we run him out of town there's a likelihood that collapses.
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3687 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:09 am to
Give me Scott
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:09 am to
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Next year, Etling will probably be our QB. The year after that, if Miles is STILL here, my guess is Brennan would be the better prospect because Miles has had overwhelmingly more success with a pocket-passer esque QB. If we get someone like Herman in here, Narcisse may be the better option.

Do you even Lindsey Scott bro?

Also, none of us have any idea what we may or may not have in McMillan. The fact that he threw a pass in the JSU game would seem to suggest the coaching staff sees him as a viable candidate to eventually take over the starting role.
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:12 am to
Please no more dual threat qbs under miles. We run a pro style offense, give me a good pocket passer with pocket presence and the ability to progress through reads. You people get so caught up in arm strength, size, etc.. ...Brandon Harris has a cannon, and can't hit the side of a barn...what good is that?
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 9:13 am
Posted by Housplants
Germantown, TN
Member since Dec 2006
1464 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:16 am to
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If anything, I'd think that Narcisse would be the one with the higher ceiling/more upside


What makes you say this?

No one knows who will be the better player in college. They have only played against high school kids.

Moreover, we have no idea who the head coach will be next year, the type of offense he will run, yada...yada...

You are guilty of exactly what you are accusing others of.
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