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re: why can't Les get a job
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:02 pm to Brazos
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:02 pm to Brazos
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So basically what you are saying is that LSU has made two hires in a row that no one else will touch
Try 5 out of the last 6. Saban is the only one of the last 6 that anyone really wanted.
I dont believe Archer or Hallman ever got another decent head coaching gig.
Dinardo eventually had a couple of seasons at Indiana, but it was Indiana.
Saban was the lone exception.
Miles can't land a decent job.
Nobody else wanted O besides Joe Alleva.
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:07 pm to East texas tiger
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If you read current articles, he is interested in coaching again.
Do you know about his contractual obligation to LSU? I love when plant operators decide to dispense knowledge about executive placement matters. It's very entertaining. 
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:10 pm to Madking
When you present facts we will have a discussion, until then just keep doing what you do. Typing paragraphs to prove nothing but your own ignorance
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:31 pm to adam32
Awe why you mad little buddy?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:34 pm to adam32
He underachieved repeatedly. Who are you to judge 'dumb shite'? Nothing about his tenure was incredible aside from his aversion to using offense to score points and his clock management skills. He was awful.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:36 pm to Madking
Not mad douche. Your a fricking dumb worthless frick that can’t see how retarded you are.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:41 pm to LSUStar
You are attempting to argue with numbers. You can’t argue his success during a time period that there were some top notch coaches in the conference. He won a title played for another one. I’m sure Les would admit to sone mistakes but name one successful coach that didn’t make mistakes. Your opinion is that he was a average or below average coach but even the most ignorant bitches on here can’t argue with a universal win percentage around 75 percent in a rugged conference.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:31 pm to Madking
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We were a top 5 school when he arrived and were consistently ranked in the 15-20 range when he left.
I'm not sure how you figure LSU was a top 5 program when Les arrived. To refresh your memory, LSU only finished among the top 5 in the polls once during the Saban era.
2000: 8-4 record, 22 in AP, unranked in Coaches.
2001: 10-3 record, 7 in AP, 8 in Coaches.
2002: 8-5 record, unranked in both polls.
2003: 13-1 record, 2 in AP, 1 in Coaches.
2004: 9-3 record, 16 in AP, 16 in Coaches.
Les finished in the top 8 in 5 of his first 7 seasons. LSU was 8-5 in 2008, finishing unranked in both polls; and 9-4 in 2009, finishing 17 in both polls.
His last four years were not as successful, particularly in SEC competition, but hardly abysmal.
2012: 10-3 record, 14 in AP, 12 in Coaches.
2013: 10-3 record, 14 in both polls.
2014: 8-5 record, finished unranked.
2015: 9-3 record, 16 in AP, 17 in Coaches.
We finished 8-4 last year, 13 in the AP and 14 in the Coaches. I'm not sure who rightfully gets responsibility for the failures and successes, but LSU looked vastly improved under Ogeron last year. But IMO, based on the first 4 games under Miles, I don't think we would have finished 6-2 if he hadn't been fired.
There's no doubt that Saban did a lot for LSU athletics in general and football in particular, but it's not like the guy was finishing in the top 5 every year. If he had stayed instead of going to Miami there's no telling what he would have accomplished.
But I honestly believe that the start of the 2004 season showed him how unrealistic and ungrateful LSU fans can be. We barely beat Oregon State to open the season, lost at Auburn by a point, and got our asses kicked at UGA. We started the season as defending national champions and by mid-October were 3-2 and ranked 24. As usual, fans were bitching. Saban had resurrected a football program that had only won more than 5 games 3 times in the previous 11 seasons prior to his arrival and won the first national championship in 45 years. Yet our idiot fans were bitching about a 3-2 start. What do you think an egomaniac like Saban thought about that?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:39 pm to East texas tiger
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If you read current articles, he is interested in coaching again. Just today, it quoted him as saying he would build a house in a lot he owns "unless he gets another coaching job". He is just not really wanted as a coach right now. Get over it. He is old news at 64 years old. Compare to Saban at 66 I think? Saban could have a job at any college in the country right now. Miles is just not that good any more.
Saban's been competing for a NC almost every season since 2009. I do not believe the crimson tide to be honest nor honorable but I feel the same about Washington DC
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:49 pm to nicholastiger
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#1 due to age, he's not a long term solution, same reason Fulmer couldn't get another job
You mean age discrimination???????
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:07 pm to voice of no reason
Why should he? He’s getting paid to not do anything.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:11 pm to adam32
Awe he’s mad poor baby
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:30 pm to White Roach
He also failed to maintain or exceed his pre season ranking 8 of 11 seasons.. And you asked how i figured he inherited a top 5 program, 2005 pre-season number 5, 2006 pre-season number 8, 2007 pre-season number 2 that’s an avg ranking of 5th over his first 3 years. You don’t judge a teams roster by the players that were there 4 years ago and no longer play for that program you judge it by the players currently there and when Miles arrived we had a top 5 program. He didn’t recruit any of those upperclassmen in fact his first cycle was dogshit by our standards.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:32 pm to Madking
Why is anyone bitching about this, anyway?
Tennessee was going to hire Schiano, nowhere near Miles' accomplishments, nowhere near the recruiting level, no ties to the region or conference.
If they seriously thought Miles would give them 5 good years, I'm sure they would take it in a hurry. I don't have much desire to see the guy in conference elsewhere, because it would be bad either way for LSU. Either he's successful and possibly takes recruits away from us, or he isn't, and it makes us look silly for having him here. And if he looks bad and O can't match his success here, we look worse for taking O, because "even an idiot" can win a title here. So what does that say about the guy who can't?
Let the dude retire.
Tennessee was going to hire Schiano, nowhere near Miles' accomplishments, nowhere near the recruiting level, no ties to the region or conference.
If they seriously thought Miles would give them 5 good years, I'm sure they would take it in a hurry. I don't have much desire to see the guy in conference elsewhere, because it would be bad either way for LSU. Either he's successful and possibly takes recruits away from us, or he isn't, and it makes us look silly for having him here. And if he looks bad and O can't match his success here, we look worse for taking O, because "even an idiot" can win a title here. So what does that say about the guy who can't?
Let the dude retire.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:11 am to Madking
In 2004 the team was composed of all Saban recruits (with the possible exception of a player who received a 6th year of eligibility because of a medical redshirt and not named Kirston Pittman) and was also coached by Saban. They went 9-3 and finished 16th in the polls. I'd say Miles inherited a top 20 team in 2005 and held it together after Hurricane Katrina and a horrible home opener loss to UT to finish 11-2.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:24 am to voice of no reason
quote:
why can't Les get a job
He's an obsolete idiot.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:41 am to White Roach
The 2005 team was pre-season ranked 5th Miles had never coached a game yet at LSU. Being ranked 5th isn’t close to 20th. A top 20 program are you serious? Lmfao wow. By that logic you’d agree Ogeron has inherited a top 40-45 program correct?
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 12:44 am
Posted on 11/29/17 at 12:50 am to voice of no reason
He doesn’t want one. And at 64 I hope to be retired too.
When is the last time a major conference power hired a 64 year old coach?
When is the last time a major conference power hired a 64 year old coach?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 1:02 am to voice of no reason
Retards like you were the reason some recruits avoided LSU.
Constant negativity and running down the program.
He's gone and still you make an arse of yourself.
Constant negativity and running down the program.
He's gone and still you make an arse of yourself.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:12 am to Madking
quote:That was 9-3 and #16 son. LSU had just the one top 5 finish.
We were a top 5 school when he arrived and were consistently ranked in the 15-20 range when he left.
LSU wasn't top 5 material until Miles arrived after attaining it 4 of his 1st 7 seasons.
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